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6-8 up here? I’m guessing not all that is from the storm or includes today, as it looks like I’m a little bit too far west, though the 3k has close to that. Phin is the big winner. Lets see if he can keep this pack until April.

You're looking good for your first true snow up there. Enjoy man...hopefully PF and my area can score some up-slope scraps after this thing passes.

just wait til the Christmas eve rainstorm at Jay and Stowe with Phin Kayaking down his front lawn.

Good for the reputation to get open and stay open, but honestly, from a business perspective this year, there is zero to gain. They are not selling a day pass and the season pass holders are not even spending a couple bucks on food and alcohol this year.

We are all weenies, so you're not alone. I do feel what you are saying tho; walking out to the one lift spinning through grass and mud the day after Thanksgiving is not what I dreamt about all summer. I'm just trying to stay optimistic and let the averages play out. Where you and I come from, if you waste a couple coastals and a two week cold period, your winter might be done. I just think once we get some pack going and the cold sets in, we will feel better about this year and the NNE winter will do its thing...

The overall snow numbers have been decent up here, but it def has that slow start feel when you are in December, and we have mountains closed and probably looking at only a few trails into early next week. I'm not worried though, elevation should do it's thing even in the marginal setups now and we could be rolling in ten days or so.

Agree...There's decent chances for the Northern Greens in the next 10 days but I wouldn't want to be a resort in the Catskills or Poconos right now where theres no margin for error. I think things will be rolling by mid-month up our way. Shitty start though. Most years I would think everyone would want to get off to a big early season start to peak interest in the season and cash in on the demand, but this year, who knows. With reduced capacity, I think as soon as conditions get right, the demand will be there.

right decision to close today...save whats out there and get the guns in position. I'm shocked Mt. Snow is open.

This was a gut-punch to New England Ski resorts. I just checked out the Hunter Mountain Cam. That place looks like the late may melt with random grey piles. We should recover by next week in this pattern and with some upslope love, but man, even a top notch snow making system like they have has its work cut out. They will be able to blow again in a day or two, but its not like wet bulbs in the mid teens are forecast for days on end either down there.

Indy pass gets people to some legit mountains for a reasonable price if you have the ability and desire to drive to different resorts. If you just do the two days each at Cannon, Jay, and Magic, you are down to $33 a day with some other smaller hills left. And thats $33 a day skiing real deal vertical and terrain.

Exactly..Very few recreational activities that don't involve some sort of expense...Fishing, hunting, playing hockey. The initial expenditure to get into the activity is always going to be high and after that, you can make it as expensive as you want. I think the skiing myth is due to the twice a year, megalopolis family. If you have three kids who don't ski regularly, and you are doing two weekends a year with no passes, yes, it is extremely expensive. 5 lift tix, 5 rentals, lessons for the kids, food, gas etc. Easily over a thousand dollars. But if you are a regular skier, who buys a pass and uses the hell out of it, you have your own equipment, your kids don't need lessons and you skip the five $8 lattes on the way up and the $12 order of chicken fingers in the lodge, its no more expensive than any other activity. Living nearby a ski resort, there is very little additional expense once you buy the pass. I think the social aspect of it is where you can rack up the dollars.

10-15 and snow making temps gets us some serviceable terrain and in the glades

And that's what I love about up here. Yeah, it would be great to get a big synoptic event with a high water content to put down a solid base on the natural trails, but it seems like up here, with every threat comes the potential for that backside cold shot bringing the up-slope. I forgot which one of you reminded me, the northern greens don't move, so when that upper level pattern can be forecast several days out, we can have more confidence in getting some decent snows, rather than living and dying with each model run. I may be different that some folks who just love the big event that you track for days with the highs and lows of 1 am model runs, but I'll take the consistent powder days all winter long over the blockbuster. Hopefully, that gfs run that shows a few days of up-slope magic and below freezing highs gets some terrain open next week. We saw some on and off mixed precip yesterday, but nothing but grass outside right now.

Patience...We will get our snow. Too much elevation when deep winter kicks in not to. Plus, there is the up-slope insurance where you and I are.

Going to look even better when those boulders are hidden in a few weeks.

Because both have a 95 percent accuracy 200 plus hours out?

Opening day. Snow was in great shape considering the temps. Felt great to be back on snow.

North face looks empty.

Upslope seems to have been the majority of the snow here so far. Totals have been solid, it just seems we are a little early to maintain it.

20f, steady snow, little over 2” down this morning. What a great opening day for Stowe. Was thinking about sneaking over, but too much stuff to do and my wife was “less than receptive” about handling work and virtual school today. I think we have several hours of this today before the rain tonight. Weekly totals for the last two weeks have been solid for mid November.

Down to 10 already, but with no wind, it’s not too bad out. Hiked up to about 2800’ today and felt great out with light flurries almost all day. Kids starting getting cold only because they insisted on smashing each other’s faces with snow.

About 3.5” since last night plus around an inch from yesterday morning. Still a steady light snow in the air this morning for a real winter feel. The atmosphere is really wringing out every last drop here. It’s so light, so not enough to hit the slopes, but man is it tempting. *ruler courtesy of theft in the middle of my eight year olds virtual school day.

Jay was doing long term 2br condo rentals a month ago. It’s going to be a ghost town with the border closed, so might be worth checking out .

You got me down there tonight...just started picking up, but prob only 1/4” or so. We got about a half inch earlier before it quit midday.

My 3 were technically doing hybrid, going two days a week but it’s almost not worth it at this point. They shut the schools down for two weeks at a time if anyone is confirmed positive (staff or teacher) so they haven’t been there in a few weeks and while we are up here, Vt. got added to the travel list so they would have to quarantine for 14 days when we get back. Plus they want to shut things down around Christmas again. I’m a huge proponent of in person learning vs. virtual, but at this point it makes sense to just stay virtual until the schools are ready to open back up fully. Covid definitely provided a rare opportunity to spend big chunks of time up this year. I also look at it as an opportunity for them to experience a true nne winter, rather than the quick trips so I’m hoping somehow it turns into a cool memory. Me...I’m just looking forward to killing the empty northern greens this year if we get a decent winter. I have to go back to nj every once in a while, but I’ll probably get more time at jay and Stowe than any other year. Looking forward to venturing into nh a couple times too to check out cannon and maybe wildcat.