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Brooklyn is the worst spot, other than a couple of places on the south shore for snow in NY state. Go 40 geographical miles NW, N or NE of NYC and you go from a 25 inch average to a 45-50 inch average. You'll get colder average winter temps than Boston and comparable or better snowfall average than Bostons 43.8 inch per season. It makes a big difference especially regarding sustained snow pack. WTS, this winter had been pitiful for everyone in the Northeast in a line about 20-40 miles south of BInghamton to Albany to the NH/Mass border.

Wow got all the way down to 23° this morning, only three degrees above the normal low for the date of 20°. What a pitiful excuse for a winter. Keep rooting for those sustained 70's in March warmists, I don't see any problems with that, perfectly normal.

Bluewave posted this a couple of days ago. If NYC doesn't get another measurable snowfall this season it will be the earliest end to the accumulating snows in a season ever. That sounds about right, this has been historically bad, why not set the record.

Even if he was somehow was right about March (and he won't be), what would that prove? He made one right call out of his last dozen. He'd still be a joke.

70's mid month on? That would be about 25 degrees above normal. Maybe for a day or two but mid month on, I hope not. That would approach the March 2012 in Chicago, where they had 8 out of 9 days 80° or above. That was freaky and F'd up their trees big time. I could do without it.

My low so far for this season is 5.1°. I believe this may be the first season ever the temperature never got below 5°. If it doesn't happen by March 15th it's not happening, and I don't see anything upcoming to make that happen.

Central Park had the 27.5 inches from the January 23 storm and 5.3 inches for the entire season other than the storm with a 32.8 total. Combine that with the above normal temps in January and February, the warmest December ever exceeding the second warmest by 7 degrees, and the 4th warmest March ever, it still baffles me how anyone can call that a good winter. To each his own though.

I forget who it was that said several days ago that the Tug Hill was having a bad year. My response was 150-200 inches in a season is a bad year for them. Looks like their season will be improving. Just checked back a page. It was Animal, the man who declared, it's over. I wholeheartedly agree.

I received 24.9 inches in 15/16 but probably all of our difference there was the 11.2 inches I received being on the northern fringe (for 3-4 hours until the heavier bands rotated out) of the Jan 23 2016 storm. I know places 25 miles north of me received 0 from that storm and one of my kids 30 miles south in NNJ received 30 inches. In 2011/12 it was 29.2 inches, 16 of it from the October storm, 4.7 on Jan 21, 3.0 on Feb 24 and 2.7 on Feb 29th. All other events were an inch or less. That was very close to this season on the stinker scale, along with 2015/16

I'm currently at 20.5 so this would now rank as my worst winter accumulation wise in the ten years I've kept complete records. Add in the abnormally high temperatures and so far it has to rank as a top 3 stinker of all time. However as Julian alluded too, I'm pretty sure there will be several inches somewhere along the line in March or April that will take me above my all time recorded low of 24.9 in 2015/16. Anyone have records from 2001/02? I'm thinking that season had to be less than 20 inches around here. I blanked that season out completely, as I hopefully will do regarding this season in time.

Not entirely true. February 2016 ended up being about 2° above normal and March 2016 ended up being the 4th warmest March on record. A horrible winter overall, with one historic storm for NYC (28-31 inches) and close by burbs (we in the North land got screwed by that one) that melted in most places in several days. That's not my idea of winter.

Let's not, the climates F'd up enough as it is. What a brutal non winter.

Move that up two years and have the 60 inch storm Dec 20th or so followed by Jan through March 2014. Now that's a winter season to remember.

What's the rush, it's 8 days away. This is a little like seeing Christmas decorations on Labor Day.

That's just not true. I looked at the 6Z GFS this morning and it had 30 inches for me for March 5th, six hours later I looked at the 12Z and it had 2 inches for Match 5th, it couldn't be more different.

Just for laughs, the 6Z GFS this morning buries NWNJ and the HV with 30 inches of snow 12 days from now. Given the clairvoyance of the GFS long range this year start preparing now.

Whatever your screen name was in 2010/11 I'd advise to going back to that. 53 straight days of snow cover in NYC, and 37 days of 6 inch or greater snow cover and Dec Jan Feb actually averaged near normal or below each month, 32.8, 29.7 and 36.0 respectively. Let's have that winter again.

That’s a bit of an exaggeration. The 151 year average in NYC is 28.8 inches including the miserable winter they’ve endured this year. I’m not sure of Boston’s exact number but I’m sure it’s not 57.6 or anywhere near that. Maybe around 45 sounds about right.

Was he the one who was banned for a week about a week ago, then came back demanding to know why Bronx banned him? Or am I confusing my Nycweathers?

What did you end up with in yesterday’s lake effect and what was the jackpot area and amount yesterday?

MJO812 who until this past month was snow88. Since the name change hasn’t worked did he delete his account in a last desperate attempt to change this F’n pattern? God bless him for always trying.

Agreed, my point was only that this one is historically bad so far and will probably end up a top 5 stinker snow wise and temp wise in NYC when all is said and done.

Well lets not act like winters like this are a common occurrence either because that's being disingenuous. Right now you're staring at the fourth least snowiest year ever in 151 years in NYC and most likely one of the top 5 warmest January-February combos in history. Those combos don't happen that often.

Boston at 15.1 on the season. I'm still ahead of them at 20.5. The line from Albany across to Mass/NH border on north are the only spots doing okay snow wise. Everyone way above normal temp wise.

January 1961 Poughkeepsie recorded their all time record low of -30. I had always heard that people were awakened during that cold snap in the HV by what sounded like gunshots, only to discover that it was the sap freezing in in the trees. The coldest temperature I ever recorded in this area was -23 during the January 1994 cold snap. I believe a town in NWNJ set the all time state record of -34 for NJ on the same day.