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Well we all don’t live on the Jersey shore. Anyone north and west this is very shaky compared to last run. Western flank we had reduced to almost nothing and qpf cut down 40-50%. Plus this is the western outlier. Yes you detect bitterness, despair and jealousy.

It was a weak moment earlier today when I was looking for any EURO support.

What run ? Wasn’t impressed with the last one I saw. Specifically for the HV West of the Hudson.

Why am I already getting the feeling this supposed beast will be a no show again by tomorrow morning. Is it paranoia, or just preparing myself for the let down which odds favor? I swear if SNE gets buried by this and we're flurrying under filtered sunshine Saturday I'm done. No more heartache, I shouldn't be affected by winter weather to this degree. I was sure I was going to outgrow it by now.

25° light snow, looks much better on radar than it does in person.

F The benchmark. Definitely a term created by someone on Cape Cod or Boston area. Give me inside the benchmark any day and I'll take my chances.

This is the CMC snow equiv map. The problem is it runs through Feb 3 but I believe most if not all of this is snow for Friday through Sunday. If I could I would freeze that right where it is. Most likely this will waver a lot between now and Friday but I'm okay if it doesn't I love when SE New England gets rain, especially living in the HV.

0.3 inches yesterday Took my one year old grandson sledding on it. Other than the dustings of the last several days my 200 pounds didn't sink a tenth of an inch on the current snow pack. Great sledding snow.

Definitely more than a dusting, even more than a coating, but less than an inch. Let's call it a coatinch.

Finally someone that grades winter Nov 25 - April 10, like I do. Temperatures have to at least average normal to below, there has to be a minimum of 45 days of snow cover, preferably 60+, and of course there has to be ice on the river and ponds must be frozen solid. I also throw in a white Christmas and solid December but the last several years those two have not been clicking most years. If i get all of that I'm even okay with somewhat below normal snowfall (about 50 inches per season where i am in Orange County). It's a large forum area wise and I know people in the city and south and east have a totally different criteria.

CMC snow map from 12Z today for the 30th, and the GFS snow map for the 30th from three days ago. Very similar for the northeast, it probably doesn't mean a lot but certainly worth monitoring.

I still don’t get everyone wishing for warm weather in March. It’s just another winter month especially north and west of NYC. To wish for sustained warmth in March is like wishing for sustained cold in September. Off the top of my head I forget the exact figure but something like 5 of the last 8 winters in NYC March has been the snowiest month and north and west a few of those have been epic and I’ve enjoyed every minute. Now if we could somehow flip flop the great Marchs for the lousy December’s we’ve been having snow wise I’d be all on board. Just a pet peeve.

Rob, don't ask me to explain things when I have no idea what point I'm trying to make. I'll throw conspiracy theories out there. They're purposely adding several degrees to their readings to lure tourism? Who wouldn't want to ride a roller coaster in 16° weather. In 10° weather that would be crazy.

It's 10° here right now, and Legoland 10 miles to my west is 16°? They're doing something wrong.

-2° for the morning low. Parts of Northern Orange County -10° to -15°

-2 for the morning low. Julian pretty much nailed it. It doesn’t seem like my neighborhood nails the cold like it use to, it use to be one of those spots that would come in coldest in the area but I’ve noticed that change during the last several years. Not quite sure why.

Also of note regarding February1934, the average temperature that month in NYC was 19.9°. Throw on top of that 27.9 inches of snow that fell that month and it's a winter lovers fantasy, come true. It remains and probably always will, the coldest month recorded in NYC since official records (1870) have been kept. 1.8° colder than the second coldest month ever January 1918's 21.7° average.

Well I know you must be kidding because yesterday snowman19 guaranteed a torch beginning February 1, like has never been seen before and it would last through March and pretty much wipe out the rest of winter. It's not like him to make predictions like that unless they're a sure thing. I actually took out all my spring clothes last night even though it's going to -5° here tomorrow morning. Other than his call in December for a torch in January and the virtual end of winter he's never steered me wrong.

Sitting at 12° at 1:00 I would think with a solid snow pack right now, calm winds and clear skies tonight, there should be plenty of sub zero readings in the HV. Dare I say some in the area take a run at -10°? I'm guessing -5° for tomorrow morning where I am. @Juliancoltonis usually pretty good at calling these nighttime lows. Your thoughts Julian when you have a chance.

Exactly, people have grown so soft. It's seem like one big winter storm is everyone's ideal winter now. It can be mild the rest of the winter and no one seems to care.

Yep same here, 16 inches of snow. We lost a big apple tree in the back from that one. My wife always hated that tree and wanted to take it down and of course she got her wish.

You could say the same about the decades of the 1970’s 1980’s and 1990’s. They were anomalously low. They were actually the three least snowiest decades of all the decades since 1870. It all depends on your perspective.

The 30 year average for the park and la guardia are both 29.8 inches. Actually Central Parks is 29.9 when you add it all up but NOAA posted it as 29.8. Either way it rounds to 30.

Although I only have 12.5 inches on the season which is disappointingly below average for this point in time, I've had a solid snow cover since January 7th which weighs as much into my enjoying winter as the actual snowfall. One blockbuster snowstorm, ala Jan2016, in the middle of a horrendous winter and that melted in most places that it hit within a week is not my idea of winter. To each his own.

NYC's average is 30 inches per season. You're maybe going a little to far in the other direction. But the warming winters do make it tough for the urban areas to keep a snowpack when they get it, and that to me is the more disturbing part.