CPcantmeasuresnow

It must be an aging thing. I could never get enough of the snow and cold but I’m actually enjoying this delayed autumn. I’m old enough to remember several October snows in this area. October 18, 1972, October 3, 1987 which was actually over a foot in many parts of the Hudson Valley. I especially remember parts of Dutchess having significant tree damage. Probably the closest we’ve ever been to a significant summer snow event at least in my lifetime. October 29, 2011 15 inches IMBY and four pear trees that made the ultimate sacrifice so I could enjoy a rare white Halloween. That being said this has to be the latest in the season I haven’t even recorded a low in the 30’s. It looks like that will finally happen Monday morning, and I’m okay with this. Like I said earlier it must be an aging thing. The young CP would never have accepted this gracefully.

We always have February 2010, 3 feet of snow while they got rain.

From the Hudson Valley in NY, I'm sick with envy. Enjoy the ride New England.

Actually the jackpot in the May 9, 1977 event was one of the small towns in the Catskills that received 27 inches, I can't remember the name though. Many of the higher elevation towns in Orange County were snow covered by that event. Last May 9th's snow event was great but the 1977 event blew that away. Just like last year there was even a trace in NYC.

That’s just not true IMO. He makes general comments and if it doesn’t live up to expectations in one area of the forum he claims victory. It’s a large area with lots of different micro climates.

And your feeling of total euphoria regarding that, comes out in even a simple one sentence post.

You've always been an easy grader, all of the past winters say that, that's why they all try to get into your class. This is a B and we've already been through all the reasons this doesn't come close to an A unless we had a March similar to 2018. With the way this March is going this winter is dropping into the C+, B- category. March in the HV has to produce something in the first three weeks of the month at least, not this year and 1-2 inches Friday won't cut it.

It depends on where in the forum you live. I’m sure people on the jersey shore gave up on winter two months ago.

Hey Mud Season grades don't come out until Mid April. An early A+ though for sure.

It is a beautiful day, yet I still want this to verify on the 18th-19th. How can someone love both?

60° and I'm officially calling an end to the snowpack today (trumpets play, the choir sings). Although there's still a surprising amount of snow coverage at noon today we are near or below the 50% threshold and I can't in good conscience call this a day with snow cover. For the season it's 53 days of snowpack and 43 straight days from January 27 through March 11th. I'm one of those people that doesn't want winter to end until the middle of April but it's been a decent winter so I'm okay with 60° today and melting snow/iceberg, it actually feels great. No complaints though if it snows next week. 59.4 inches for the season, I'd still like to make it to the 65-70 inch range.

Still 2.5 inches otg with about 75% coverage. I'm sure if today doesn't put an end to the streak tomorrow will. A nice run, 42 days consecutive with snow cover and 52 for the season so far, it lets me appreciate winter and move on to the next season without feeling cheated.

Just going through that period with no one other than Ihatesnowman19 calling for a torch, (and he is limited to how many times a day he can say it) or even saying the word torch, was a welcome break from the last two non-winters.

The worst was this Christmas Eve. I still had about 6-8 inches of snow otg Christmas Eve and woke up to A green Christmas Morning. The Weather Channel should have given that storm one of its stupid winter storm names. They should have named it winter storm “&$?!!/&$/)($&”

I still don't quite understand why anyone would want a hot summer. For what purpose? A normal summer with low to mid 80's as highs and low 60's in the early am, I live in the HV and that's the norms, is perfect weather, why do people covet 90's?

Looking back on 2014/15 I would agree that was also an A. The only negatives were a lousy December with 1 inch of snow for the whole month but we had 11.4 inches in November and a solid March of snow which offset it. Both January and February were excellent months, no huge storms but lots of 2, 4 and 8 inch stuff and below normal temps all 3 months January through March. Solid snow cover through most of the period. An A for sure.

Today marks the 40th straight day with snow cover, I began the streak on January 27th, and 50 days of snowcover for the season. Right now it's a soild B for the winter. If something big did develop for next Monday and lasted the week we would be in B+, territory in my book. I reserve the A's for the top 15% winters and this is not that IMO. Temps above normal for the season, never got below 0, Christmas Eve debacle, no snow to speak of in January all the things already spoken of here. In the last dozen years 2009/10, 2010/11, 2013/14 those were all recent A's, again IMO.

This depiction as is moves the winter from a B to an A-, IMO. A week away and still fantasy land for now.

More surprising is NYC has 3.7 more inches than Bangor Me.

25° with 5 inches of snow otg and holding steady. It will take the midweek warmup to finally put an end to the remaining resilient snowpack. The difference between 5 inches of battle tested, compressed, ice encrusted snow that's been around for five weeks and new fallen snow is light night and day regarding staying power, some get that but many still don't.

For a simple system this is what works for me, the CP system of grading winter which can be used in any location. Whatever your seasonal snowfall average is, that should equal the number of days of snowcover for the season as a passing grade. So here in Orange County we average anywhere from 45-55 inches depending on where in the county you live and at what elevation. Here in Highland Mills we average about 50 inches per year. Give me 50 inches of snow in a season and 50 days with snow cover and it's generally acceptable C+, B- area. Then you can factor in the other things, sustained cold spell, significant storms, white Christmas etc. Right now we're at 59.4 inches for the season and 47 days with snow cover with 37 straights days and counting. Generally this would be a B since we will hit 50 days of snow cover, by Monday morning, but the winter as a whole has been above normal temperature wise and of course the Christmas Eve nightmare washing away our white Christmas currently makes it a C+ in my book. Subject to change of course. I don't close the books here until April 15th.

The dreaded south facing hill scenario? Combine that with tall evergreens that only allow minor accumulations underneath, even during raging snowstorms and it's a sustained snowpack nightmare. We all mourn with you.

5 inches of snow otg, 35° , 36 consecutive days of snow cover and 46 days of snow cover for the season. This stuff is holding up tough as we all suspected it would. I would guess it's demise finally comes during next weeks three days in the 50's. By then I will have reached my minimum standard for an acceptable winter of 50 days of snow cover. I still am baffled how some people in the NYC/coastal plain area rated the winter of 2015/16 as an A all from one big blizzard there of 30+ inches and virtually no snow before or after it. I could almost accept that if there was sustained cold and a snow pack that lasted weeks after it, but if memory serves there was a mild spell almost immediately after and it was gone from most of those areas within a week. Everyone has their own grading systems but how is a winter with no sustained snow cover anything above a D?

It’s not like they’re that common around here. I think I remember about three in my entire life. As I remember they were three of the most misreable days of my life. I’m not joining you on this one, give me -20 anyday over that.

Also is there anyway to ban whoever created this thread from creating any more storm threads? If not then tar and feathering might be an appropriate alternative form of punishment. Talk about jumping the gun and killing a threat before it even had a chance to breathe.