CPcantmeasuresnow

I remeber hearing the quote "historic torch coming" regarding Christmas Week about ten days ago. Things do change in ten days.

Very. I don't think I've seen that extreme.

Beacons low elevation and proximity to the river make it a known snow hole in marginal events like this. Usually the Newburgh riverfront doesn't do too well either.

An interesting storm. I ended up with 3.2 inches here about half that fell in the hour and a quarter I got into the heavy band. I measured 3.2 inches at 10 o'clock. At noon it had settled and compressed and probably melted a bit down to 2.6. One last good band came through and at 1 o'clock I was back to 3.2. Under old methods that would be recorded as 3.8 inches but now it's a 3.2, maximum depth at any point during the day. At least until they change the rules again. Personally I preferred the clearing of the snowboard every six hours, or when precip has stopped on changed. To me that gave the most accurate measurement.

Final total 3.2 inches, 11.6 now for the season

Just reached the 3 inch mark as of 930. 11.4 inches for the season not a bad December.

I have wavered back and forth on the northern edge of that band. I have 2.5 inches as of 9am, 0.7 inches fell between 8:30-9:00 when i wavered back into the thick of it. I'm guessing 10 miles north of me in New Windsor they probably have 1-1.5 inches. We would like to hear from someone there.

Same here in Highland Mills, at least one inch per hour rates right now. Hope it lasts, over 2 inches now.

30.9° with a heavy band coming through now. Officially 1.8 inches on the snow board at 8:30. 10.2 inches for the season. Today will now mark 18 days with snow cover for the month. It's been a very good December so far.

31.1 with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches.

31.1° with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches.

31.1 with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches. Will measure at 9

Yes but two weeks ago the weeklies had the Christmas Day to New Years period 10° above average. It looks just about average to me now. But of course it didn't happen yet so we shall see.

And two weeks ago some on here were touting the torch for Christmas week. I've found looking ahead past ten days is very unreliable and just spoils the here and now.

Winter weather advisory for orange and Putnam County and Western Passaic tonight. Calling for 2 to 3 inches. I'd be overjoyed if we hit the high end.

Jersey snow hole seems to think you're hysterical. I'm feeling some kind of imbalance there.

Let me guess. You're not from LI or the northern and northeast suburbs.

When the Conservancy took over in 2015 I monitored the measurements for the first several years. They seemed to be doing a good job from 2015-2020. If you take the last 5 seasons Central Park has averaged 2.6 inches less than Newark and 2.1 inches less than LGA per year. When you consider that the average snowfall over the last 5 seasons has been 15.8 to 18.4 that's a fairly high percentage difference on the order of 13-16% lower at Central Park vs the two stations it lies in between. This is probably boring to most and probably warrants it's own thread for those that have followed and monitored this for many years.

I live 50 miles north of NYC and I've been complaining for decades. I created this screename in the late 90's on the old Bill Evans AccuWeather weather forum and there was good reason I chose it. I had several discussions with Bill back in that time period and he said he thought the yearly average in CP was probably 4-5 inches higher than what was actually recorded. Years later 2011-2014, I discussed the problem with the NWS many times leading to the change to the conservancy taking the measurements in 2015. They always acknowledged the problem but always stated how difficult it is to get a reliable person to the park to measure. They even asked at one point if I wanted to do it, considering the distance I politely declined. Like I said earlier they then took the measurements from the Central Park zookeeper in late 2014 and started with the Conservancy taking the measurements. To repeat myself it did improve significantly from 2015-2019 but has been pretty much a shit show again since 2020. There are most likely several reasons for their constant under measurements. Where they measure, when they measure, not measuring immediately after events end so there is time for compression, settling or melting and having an organization measuring that doesn't seem to care about accuracy and timeliness.

Consider that the official Measurer, or whatever title you want to give him, was the Central Park Zookeeper from 1992-2014. A period of some of the worst under measured storms of all time. They handed it off to the Conservancy and from 2015-2019 it improved quite a bit. Since 2020 they have been as bad as the zookeeper was.

Whiteout conditions. Awesome.

I'll take my 2.9, if it does happen, and rejoice in my two white Christmas in a row.

What was the issue?

I think the us in here that live in the north may get an inch or two out of it.

Down to 30, snow showers and flurries. Whitened things up a bit on cold surfaces.