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Pretty much what forky said today.

12.8 inches so far this season, below average, but the saving grace is I've had a solid snow cover since January 7th. An ice encrusted 4-5 inch snow cover as of this morning and it's not going anywhere soon. Although if nothing materializes this weekend it may well be in jeopardy midweek, next week.

Liar

Most people would be very surprised of the averages in most Midwestern Cities. Minneapolis 51.2 Detroit 45.0 Inches Chicago 38.8 inches NYC 29.8 inches Indianapolis 25.5 inches Cincinnati 23.3 inches Kansas City 18.2 inches St. Louis 16.6 inches The big difference in the cities that get more like Chicago, Detroit and of course Minneapolis is it sticks around a lot longer than in NYC. Also as you alluded to it comes in much smaller doses in those cities. One foot snowfalls are pretty rare in all three as compared to NYC. I always use the stat Minneapolis has had only five 17 inch snowfalls or above since they've kept records since the 1880's. NYC has had seven 17 inch or greater storms in just the last 18 years.

Honestly this is just what I needed. A dose of reality from the 12Z GFS. I can now look away at least until tonight and pretty much know we are toast. Serenity now, serenity now.

I know, It's the NAM, it's out of its range, and it's the Kuchera. But it's not far off from EURO totals this morning. I just can't look away, even though I know in my heart it's fools gold.

There's been 7 storms in the last 18 years of 17.4 inches or greater in NYC alone. Draw a circle 40 miles outside the city limits and it doubles. If people aren't use to big storms by now they either haven't lived here long, or they are not paying attention, or they just have short memories.

Would love the 6Z Euro Kuchera to verify but we know that isn't happening. At the same time I'd still be annoyed I get 20 inches while the jersey shore gets 40. Is there no end to this madness?

Can we get a close up shot of this for the northeast? I need something to get me through the day.

Yep, agree. Can only take solace in the snow cover I've had the last three weeks which still stands at a solid 4 inches today, and will probably still be at 4 inches, 6 max, by Sunday morning. I'll just browse pictures of the 27 inch storm last February 1-2.

Last night a bad night for our sub forum. All hope not lost but hanging by a thread. Just not our storm. Really never was consistently and doubting that changes. Tonight runs should be telling. Bronx warned us. Wish I listened before I got emotionally involved. Filing for divorce from this storm, whatever the hell stupid name they give it, tomorrow morning.

Hate to agree but I’m starting too. Not a great night. Tonight is make or break.

Well we all don’t live on the Jersey shore. Anyone north and west this is very shaky compared to last run. Western flank we had reduced to almost nothing and qpf cut down 40-50%. Plus this is the western outlier. Yes you detect bitterness, despair and jealousy.

It was a weak moment earlier today when I was looking for any EURO support.

What run ? Wasn’t impressed with the last one I saw. Specifically for the HV West of the Hudson.

Why am I already getting the feeling this supposed beast will be a no show again by tomorrow morning. Is it paranoia, or just preparing myself for the let down which odds favor? I swear if SNE gets buried by this and we're flurrying under filtered sunshine Saturday I'm done. No more heartache, I shouldn't be affected by winter weather to this degree. I was sure I was going to outgrow it by now.

25° light snow, looks much better on radar than it does in person.

F The benchmark. Definitely a term created by someone on Cape Cod or Boston area. Give me inside the benchmark any day and I'll take my chances.

This is the CMC snow equiv map. The problem is it runs through Feb 3 but I believe most if not all of this is snow for Friday through Sunday. If I could I would freeze that right where it is. Most likely this will waver a lot between now and Friday but I'm okay if it doesn't I love when SE New England gets rain, especially living in the HV.

0.3 inches yesterday Took my one year old grandson sledding on it. Other than the dustings of the last several days my 200 pounds didn't sink a tenth of an inch on the current snow pack. Great sledding snow.

Definitely more than a dusting, even more than a coating, but less than an inch. Let's call it a coatinch.

Finally someone that grades winter Nov 25 - April 10, like I do. Temperatures have to at least average normal to below, there has to be a minimum of 45 days of snow cover, preferably 60+, and of course there has to be ice on the river and ponds must be frozen solid. I also throw in a white Christmas and solid December but the last several years those two have not been clicking most years. If i get all of that I'm even okay with somewhat below normal snowfall (about 50 inches per season where i am in Orange County). It's a large forum area wise and I know people in the city and south and east have a totally different criteria.

CMC snow map from 12Z today for the 30th, and the GFS snow map for the 30th from three days ago. Very similar for the northeast, it probably doesn't mean a lot but certainly worth monitoring.

I still don’t get everyone wishing for warm weather in March. It’s just another winter month especially north and west of NYC. To wish for sustained warmth in March is like wishing for sustained cold in September. Off the top of my head I forget the exact figure but something like 5 of the last 8 winters in NYC March has been the snowiest month and north and west a few of those have been epic and I’ve enjoyed every minute. Now if we could somehow flip flop the great Marchs for the lousy December’s we’ve been having snow wise I’d be all on board. Just a pet peeve.

Rob, don't ask me to explain things when I have no idea what point I'm trying to make. I'll throw conspiracy theories out there. They're purposely adding several degrees to their readings to lure tourism? Who wouldn't want to ride a roller coaster in 16° weather. In 10° weather that would be crazy.