CPcantmeasuresnow

We had 4-5 inches on the ground last Christmas. Not in Sussex?

Don, I'm guessing if you added in 4 inch snowfalls from a single event which would span a two day period, that would even go up by another hundred at least.

Maybe in the last four years, you can call that a big hit in Central Park, because it actually hasn't happened officially. Even though most of the city had a 4 to 5 inch snowfall a week ago. Historically there have been several 100 4 inch snowfalls in Central Park since 1870. I know it's semantics, but I wouldn't classify that as a big hit.

There is no way to declare that with any certainty as of right now. It also depends what you define as a big hit.

They don't get much snow, that area averages about 7 inches per year, buit when they do get a surprise 2-4 inches the panick beforehand, you would think the chickxulub asteroid were about to hit. Good luck and enjoy your new home. It's a beautiful area.

I'm not sure what it would take, but I think New York City has to move Christmas to the 26th, the historical difference is stark. Sorry Kwanza.

I remeber hearing the quote "historic torch coming" regarding Christmas Week about ten days ago. Things do change in ten days.

Very. I don't think I've seen that extreme.

Beacons low elevation and proximity to the river make it a known snow hole in marginal events like this. Usually the Newburgh riverfront doesn't do too well either.

An interesting storm. I ended up with 3.2 inches here about half that fell in the hour and a quarter I got into the heavy band. I measured 3.2 inches at 10 o'clock. At noon it had settled and compressed and probably melted a bit down to 2.6. One last good band came through and at 1 o'clock I was back to 3.2. Under old methods that would be recorded as 3.8 inches but now it's a 3.2, maximum depth at any point during the day. At least until they change the rules again. Personally I preferred the clearing of the snowboard every six hours, or when precip has stopped on changed. To me that gave the most accurate measurement.

Final total 3.2 inches, 11.6 now for the season

Just reached the 3 inch mark as of 930. 11.4 inches for the season not a bad December.

I have wavered back and forth on the northern edge of that band. I have 2.5 inches as of 9am, 0.7 inches fell between 8:30-9:00 when i wavered back into the thick of it. I'm guessing 10 miles north of me in New Windsor they probably have 1-1.5 inches. We would like to hear from someone there.

Same here in Highland Mills, at least one inch per hour rates right now. Hope it lasts, over 2 inches now.

30.9° with a heavy band coming through now. Officially 1.8 inches on the snow board at 8:30. 10.2 inches for the season. Today will now mark 18 days with snow cover for the month. It's been a very good December so far.

31.1 with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches.

31.1° with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches.

31.1 with light/moderate snow. Eyeballing 1.5-2 inches. Will measure at 9

Yes but two weeks ago the weeklies had the Christmas Day to New Years period 10° above average. It looks just about average to me now. But of course it didn't happen yet so we shall see.

And two weeks ago some on here were touting the torch for Christmas week. I've found looking ahead past ten days is very unreliable and just spoils the here and now.

Winter weather advisory for orange and Putnam County and Western Passaic tonight. Calling for 2 to 3 inches. I'd be overjoyed if we hit the high end.

Jersey snow hole seems to think you're hysterical. I'm feeling some kind of imbalance there.

Let me guess. You're not from LI or the northern and northeast suburbs.

When the Conservancy took over in 2015 I monitored the measurements for the first several years. They seemed to be doing a good job from 2015-2020. If you take the last 5 seasons Central Park has averaged 2.6 inches less than Newark and 2.1 inches less than LGA per year. When you consider that the average snowfall over the last 5 seasons has been 15.8 to 18.4 that's a fairly high percentage difference on the order of 13-16% lower at Central Park vs the two stations it lies in between. This is probably boring to most and probably warrants it's own thread for those that have followed and monitored this for many years.

I live 50 miles north of NYC and I've been complaining for decades. I created this screename in the late 90's on the old Bill Evans AccuWeather weather forum and there was good reason I chose it. I had several discussions with Bill back in that time period and he said he thought the yearly average in CP was probably 4-5 inches higher than what was actually recorded. Years later 2011-2014, I discussed the problem with the NWS many times leading to the change to the conservancy taking the measurements in 2015. They always acknowledged the problem but always stated how difficult it is to get a reliable person to the park to measure. They even asked at one point if I wanted to do it, considering the distance I politely declined. Like I said earlier they then took the measurements from the Central Park zookeeper in late 2014 and started with the Conservancy taking the measurements. To repeat myself it did improve significantly from 2015-2019 but has been pretty much a shit show again since 2020. There are most likely several reasons for their constant under measurements. Where they measure, when they measure, not measuring immediately after events end so there is time for compression, settling or melting and having an organization measuring that doesn't seem to care about accuracy and timeliness.