CPcantmeasuresnow

At least some snow is not only looking possible but likely Thursday night. Some of the clown maps for NW Orange and Sullivan for Thursday night are double digits, RIDIC probably but certainly not impossible. As long as we get a decent amount of qpf I don't care what form it comes in. Of course if I had a choice I'd make it white.

Any chance we're looking at some snow for Thursday night? Seems like the chances for at least a couple of inches in the towns above 500 feet are a realistic possibility. Above 1000 feet even better, maybe several inches.

I'd take 12/6 and 12/8 at this rate. A God awful pattern so far for early Winter lovers.

Love the new abbreviation for my screen name Rich. CPCMS much easier.

What does it say about me that I'm actually elated to hear you made the 28 that day. I need to get a life.

Thanks for the information. It seems like an overreach to me. I think they should put their experiment to rest November 1 for the foreseeable future.

The logical follow-up question is of course the following. Has the first frost, freeze and hard freeze ever occurred on the same date?

What's with the frost warning tonight in Orange County? The entire county saw a freeze to hard freeze in some places last week. Why would a frost advisory even be necessary?

29.1 here. I'm tempted to falsify the records by 0.7 degrees just to achieve the elusive first freeze/hard freeze on the same day. I could not live with that 28.5, would ruin my whole week.

Are we talking a Tsuchinshan type rarity here?

Morning low so far of 30, so the first freeze of the season. Can we hit 28 and have the first freeze and hard freeze of the season on the same day? I haven't been keeping track of the first hard freeze dates but I would think it's rare to occur on the same day. Maybe not interesting to most people but still rare.

Please differentiate first freeze and hard frost?

EWR 15.4 LGA 12.9 KNYC 2.2 - many on this board will still insist they are measuring accurately in the Park, which anyone that pays attention knows they do not. JFK 10.5 SWF 34.4 ALB 64.8 BOST - no one cares PHIL - no one cares

29.8 for the low this morning.

30 this morning for the low. This may be it for the freezes this season. A little bit early for a last freeze, I've found we usually average the May 2 to 6 period for last freeze.