Agree, I don't expect anything to change and if the pattern change is in March it won't do much at least for the city, places to the NW can still cash in during March
The NAM is now on board with starting my area as snow Wednesday night (NAM, GFS, Euro all show this) it is such an awful winter where I would be satisfied if I saw wet flakes at the beginning of a rainstorm.
Wow that would be interesting if it verifies and we are low 40s on Friday. I actually rather this cold shot modify because it is useless, we rain before and we rain after.
I lived there for a few years and am planning on going there Thursday if the storm is far enough south to front end thump there, I'll go anywhere to see snow at this point because I've pretty much accepted it's not happening in my immediate area this winter
Agree. 50 miles north of that map would push the 4 inch line north of I84. It will also depend how much Sleet/ZR mixes in during the initial precip surge for places like Ulster/Dutchess that could limit totals but it's not that far off.
Euro/GFS both have northern parts of the city starting as snow. I know it'll last for 30 minutes and be white rain but in this winter is anything is anything.
I actually think your area is close to a significant front end thump with this, everyone south of Albany will definitely go to rain but the storm comes in pretty juiced.
The other 12Z models did tick south a bit so they aren't way off from where the GFS now is at 12Z. I would move everything about 50 miles north of that map as the likely final outcome, think our interior zones may get an inch or two before the changeover
I84 looks to be the dividing line for any real snow with this, from looking at the thurway cameras it also seemed to be the dividing line for last nights event
You can see the snow line is receding a bit north each run, eventually I think this will be start as snow from Orange/Putnam County North and then quick change to ice/rain for the interior suburbs, probably will need to be near Albany to see a real front end thump
Its shifted SE the last 4 runs but none of the other models are trending (CMC actually has been trending north each run) so it's either onto something no other model is seeing or it's in complete lala land.
It's unfortunate that it runs 4 times a day so it's harder to avoid looking at but I am done with this model if it's really this bad 4 days before a storm.
GFS not caving with the colder solution for Thursday, I don't trust it at all but it will either score a coup or I will never bother looking at this model again
6Z GFS was less amped than 0Z and Euro looked a little less amped than 12Z, I know I'm, grasping at straws though, this isn't our storm, it never is this winter, at best it might be a front end snow for the interior portions of the forum
True the beginning of December wasn't awful although the storms were dissapointments for the city, then there was the miracle snow from the GLC but other than that its been rough
Unfortunately I agree, I would be surprised if the final outcome isn't a lot a warmer than whats being depicted on the GFS. It has just an absolutely nonexistent winter basically anywhere south of I84