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LOL. Pretty rich coming from you. Stick to making your obs posts no one cares about.

Many are giddy about it. More on this here forum than you would imagine.

Orwellian times are here. Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. (Jan 6th didn't happen).

We need to all have faith. Oligarchs know what's best for the masses.

Should have learned after last winter(and others) to be cautious about modeled 'epic' patterns. They often don't materialize as advertised and end up more transient than persistent. Our best pattern was in January and it largely delivered with persistent cold and snow otg for weeks, but could have been snowier. I wasn't as enthusiastic about the late Feb into mid March potential. I think there is still a chance for a sneaky modest event over the next 10 days though.

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Pretty clear indicator winter is probably over if this is what folks are posting in the LR thread.

Not really. Even when there appears to be a decent signal on the mean, its a half dozen members that have snow for our region in the March 8-10 window. No real consistency from one model cycle to the next either. Still time, and if we get that absolute perfect timing it might work out. I kinda think there will be a smallish scale semi-dynamic system at some point that produces a few inches of wet snow-ideally timed overnight- and it will ofc be gone by noon the next day. That's typical March stuff. There is nothing about the upcoming pattern that suggests anything like the St Patty's day storm of several years back is possible, with anomalous cold and significant snow falling during the daytime.

Jan 2022?

I think it is predominately Nina climo, modified somewhat by other factors, and just some bad luck up your way. -EPO patterns can tend towards dry/cold and later development of lows that do track to our south. Even here I have been on the edge of some of the recent storms(da bomb cyclone) that have nailed the immediate coast, but have done really well with others. Two 8-10" storms this winter and the early Jan(CAPE!) storm in 2022, plus multiple other 5-7" storms since the 2016 Jan storm(which was disappointing here). The Neutral/Nino winters in that time frame have produced below avg snow here. In short, a Nina with a significant period featuring an EPO ridge has worked out well for southern/eastern parts of our subforum, even with marginal help in the AO/NAO space.

That's incredible.

Yeah the bay is bath water by then. Not to mention the flow is typically from the S/SW by that time and we cook.

Looking at the ens means again today, not all that much to be excited about snow wise. The March 8-10 window doesnt look as promising as it did a couple days ago-not that it ever looked that good- and the pattern is depicted to become more unfavorable just beyond that. Been a good winter here overall, but it could have been really good with a bit more luck. Still a chance we can score a little something. March can be fluky with snow. I would take a sloppy inch- that would get me over 20 for the season.

It most certainly is on an ensemble run. Otoh, snow maps past day 10 on an op run are completely useless.

Can we not post 336 hour snow maps from a random op run lol. Zero value. Provide some insight for the depicted setup and why its plausible that it could actually snow.

The h5 pattern matters, even more so in March. A +AO/+NAO in early Spring is not conducive to getting snow at our latitude.

Super nice day with temps in the upper 40s and blue cloudless skies. Don't think you need to worry about a blizzard lol. Nothing about the depicted pattern going forward suggests that is even a remote possibility.

For those who want to keep hope alive, the March 8-10 window is probably the one to keep an eye on. Plenty of time to do it, and it most likely will evaporate long before we get close. I won't call it a signal because its pretty far out, but there have been suggestions on both the GEFS and EPS that a wave could possibly track underneath in that period, with low pressure along/just off the coast to our south. Timing would have to be impeccable, and even then who knows if it would be cold enough.

Break it up a bit, put it in a glass, and pour some bourbon over it.

Nah I don't shovel. Not my thing if I can avoid it.

Justin Tucker probably said this.

Hit 40 today. Currently 33. Stocking up on mulch. Going to get some Spring things done over the next week.

Wow its pouring snow in Sapporo right now with huge stellar dendrites. Live vicariously.

We may have some snow in March, but a snowy March is a stretch. Start with the fact that its March, and then the advertised +AO/NAO isn't at all helpful.

Cold and snow is automatic here with cold air from Siberia flowing across the Sea of Japan. Copious snow from Dec through mid March. Love how they never salt the roads- just plow occasionally and deal with it. They drive with no issues.