mitchnick

I don't disagree, but the use of emojis is out of control. If you disagree with someone, hit the disagree emoji. The fact is, every person in this forum qualifies as a weenie in some form or another, and there's nothing wrong with that. But to use the weenie or other emoji for the purpose of being disrespectful, dismissive, or just to take out your anger, needs to stop. Otherwise, we will continue to get the angst/anger against other posters imho.

Honestly, I don't base my thoughts strictly on these man-made indexes that are actually different depending on which site you use that comes up with the index numbers. Would I prefer a +PNA? Sure, but it can snow with something other than that with a well timed threat. And considering how many systems we saw come off the Pacific in the last 3 weeks, we'll have our chances, which is all we can hope for at any given time.

Odds of a favorable, general pattern may be against us in the east, but we get the bulk of our snows in meh patterns, and they are usually dirty storms (zr and/or ip). I'm of the opinion this winter will produce some moderate, at least, events.

Is Kemp Mill Records still around? They use to advertise a lot back in the 70's and 80's on DC101.

That's why I said "after New Years." But come January, average temps can produce, so I'mnot looking for BN temps.

Some things never change.

In keeping with typical medium/long range modeling, pattern changes are usually rushed by the models. My wawg (wild azz weenie guess) is that we see something close to those cold/snowy solutions advertisrd the last few days come to fruition not around Christmas, but after the New Year.

The market reacts to changes in model runs. I don't think they are any different than those on this board. And when it comes to commodity markets, it's more about getting ahead of consensus than the ultimate reality.

Last night's Euro was, but that's still 264hrs away, which is still too far away to be certain. Imho, it'll all come down to whether Christmas ends up being a day, more or less, before or after a cold frontal passage.

Definitely an elevation enhanced event as I'm only 600'.

Eyeballing, I'd say 3" up here. I went to bed at around 1:30 and the local Wunderground stations were 32 or 33, so that didn't help with accumulations. Already the snow on the grassy areas has that mogul look from melting, though it's now 30 with temps dropping so that was from the middle of the night. All in all, a great and unexpected event. Best of luck to everyone else still ripping snow.

Much better snow falling now. Definitely 1"+ otg.

The Euro weeklies got noticeably cooler today from yesterday's torchiness. Looks like the world won't be ending in Weenieville after all.

As long as that's ok with the Mrs., who are we to judge.

Gotta be near Manchester with that elevation. One of the 2 ridges north of Manchester would be my guess.