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Your generalizations are a figment of your imagination. You need to supply proof.
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6z Euro AI had the Sunday system that looks more like a colder version of last Tuesday, but a slightly different evolution. AI changes a lot, so we'll see what happens at 12z. Probably a SC/NC bullseye as it corrects to the seasonal trends.
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It'll change at 12z, but putting the 5H anomalies in motion, the ridge to our east was building, so I would wag it comes through too warm.
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Interesting look on Cfs2 lately for January and February. 500mb https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=namer&pkg=z500a&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Temps https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=us&pkg=T2ma&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Precip https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=us&pkg=apcpna_month&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 P.s. March may be acceptable too.
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Don't know if it's lasts, but Cfs2 is liking the trough in SE/Southern Canada for January and February with BN temps in the NE both months and average precip in January and AN in February. 500mb https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=namer&pkg=z500a&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Temps https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=us&pkg=T2ma&runtime=2025120800&fh=1 Precip https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=cfs-mon®ion=us&pkg=apcpna_month&runtime=2025120800&fh=1
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Wayyyyy too early to say that my friend. But I'll take a breakdown for a while as we desperately need a reshuffle.
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6z Euro has it, but a bit weaker.
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Odd. Oisst shows it predominantly below normal as of 12/6. Something isn't right, not that it matters.
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Maybe the case, I haven't checked, but November and the beginning of December that year was a polar opposite temp-wise in the east to this year.
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We had the SSW (barely) a few weeks ago which threw the models going warm for a loop. Now we have another Stratosphere warming, though not a technical SSW with negative winds, coming around the 15th per attachment. I think we'll need to wait until after the 20th-25th to see how that effects the AO/NAO.
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And it was AN for November and December and we've seen how that's turned out. All those seasonal models, except the Cansips, are seemingly programmed for AN as the default.
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Long range warm-ups have generally been muted or reversed this season. So anyone hoping for lower heating bills better be prepared for no end. The pattern has to break at some point, of course, with February being the likely time frame if January fails. The problem remains snowfall as usual.
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Not so sure about the Christmas torch, at least according to yesterday's Euro weeklies. https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-2t?base_time=202512060000&projection=opencharts_north_america&valid_time=202512150000
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Miserable runs for many.
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Central PA Fall Discussions and Obs
mitchnick replied to ChescoWx's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Pattern sets up and then you're fighting it all winter. I'm tired of doing it but it's been the case ever since I moved to here. It's either north, south, east, or west after a long string of years when I lived in MD and Hanover jackpoted. I am snakebit.
