michsnowfreak

A strong Nino 3 years after a strong Nino? Ill believe it when I see it.

Id say D at best lol. They use blue so sparingly, imagine being in South Dakota thinking, wow if they use blue its gonna be COLD.

+4-5 is a reasonable guess. It will be the first warmer than avg month since October. Again, I was strictly talking about March 21 and beyond. Some insisted the western inferno would envelope the entire conus post march 21, and that will clearly not be the case. Rather, it looks like a mix of some warmer than avg days and some colder than avg days.

For western Midwest was warmer than normal, but torch was the Plains and West.

Good for the globe! Its been mentioned many, many times. It doesn't change the fact that it was a colder than average winter in the Great Lakes and northeast, or that the cold in that part of the globe often refused to budge. I understand that getting a cold winter where 90% of this forum resides, despite more widespread world warmth, does not sit well with some. But it doesnt mean it didnt happen or cant be discussed.

Im referring specifically to several posts that repeatedly referenced that following this cold shot, the western torch would envelop the entire conus and clearly that is not the case. Just had our coldest st paddys day in 59 years. And after milder days this weekend, there are several more cold shots en route for the lakes and northeast while the southwest continues to burn. Torch is subjective i guess. The word torch was never used til 2012. Now anything a few degrees above normal is a torch to some.

Once again, talks of a conus wide torch around the equinox screeched to a halt from the Great Lakes and northeast. As expected though, the southwest will fry.

With a high of 28 (and low of 17) it was the coldest St Patrick's Day in Detroit since 1967.

It certainly has. I was wondering how much toronto had. I remember when we were getting slammed they were getting relatively screwed. Just shows how it all ebbs and flows over the years. The snowcover lover in me could never give this winter below a B...it was a real "wintry winter" but this is 2 years in a row snowcover and cold outpaced snowfall. Total irony in that the assumptions that winter trends would be decreasing snowcover even with steady snowfall.

Snow showers yesterday and today have anywhere from a T-0.5" in SE MI. I picked up 0.3" which was the first measurable snow of March for mby. Season to date is 40.1". DTW also picked up 0.3", season to date 39.1".

I honestly think measuring snow would be a full time job up there. Even here, when you get the stretches where it snows daily and there's snowpack you to make sure you've cleared ample room to measure the next day with blowing and drifting. Even with just average snow, the long lasting snowcover this winter was frequently drifting over the board. I dont even know how or where you'd even start to do that with feet of pre existing snow. I have to imagine all the reports are the observers best judgment.

It would be so fun to measure snow there for a full winter season, every 6 hours lol. My NWS snow stick goes to 40" which is plenty for 99% of places...but not your area!

Picked up a light dusting of snow from squalls today (0.1"). Windy and cold now. As expected a very meh storm here.

I consider this a very good winter with a shitty ending (in southeast MI). But regardless, once we get to this point im fine either way. If its gonna warm up, fine, but ill never say no to snow.

Anthony. You MUST visit the U.P. in winter. Its incredible.