michsnowfreak

Both 1949-50 & 2022-23 were similar here in that they were overall very mild winters but with multiple winter storms. There was certainly some excitement but winter did not sustain itself.

Sounds good to me. A winter closer to 20th coldest instead of top 5 and with snowfall well over 100". Book it!

Interesting. Sept 1881 is the hottest on record at Detroit. Heavy rain did fall on 9/16, 1.38", with a high of 72F.

It is very dry and dusty here in southern MI. I took the day off and went apple picking with a friend. Apple crop is plentiful but not sure about corn here. I do know that color is well ahead of schedule.

Dry, sunny, and dusty...with early color continuing.

Why use JFK? They aren't a first order station, are they? I always assumed NYC was the main one. Plus, JFKs numbers seem way out of sync with the rest of your area last winter. NYC was -2.5° in Jan and -0.9° in Feb and LGA was -2.0° in Jan and -0.6° in Feb.

Agree 100%. I have come across quite a few hot summers and mild, snowless winters from the 1800s-1860s, but with lack of official records, they are never looked at beyond what minimal info there is.

Everytime you guys bring up 95-96 I just cringe. I mean its 30 years ago and I was 12...and there have been many amazing winters since...but 95-96, just gross lol (except for the Mar 20 storm).

Interesting how apparently 1828 was a super hot summer.

Yeah for you guys 2014-15 was the winner. It was a severe winter here for sure, bitterly cold and white, but outside of one huge snowstorm Feb 1st, it was a much, MUCH quieter winter than 2013-14.

The entire pattern was definitely EVERYTHING going right. And everything busted in our favor. In 150 years of data, 2013-14 ranks for Detroit: Total Snowfall- #1 1"+ Snowcover Days - #1 6"+ Snowcover Days - #1 12"+ Snowcover Days - #1 Cold- DJF #8, NDJFM- #4 And constant wind for drifting snow. Rural open areas in Monroe County, MI (between Detroit & Toledo) had snow completely bury some barns.

It was the 6th coldest Aug 25-Sept 7 period at Detroit, but coldest since 1935. Color is coming on earlier than normal as well.

I understand that, I just meant that if a pattern in place is going to produce a lot of cold and snow, nothings going to stop it.

I dont think we'll ever see another 2013-14 here and I've said that many times. However, if everything aligned pattern wise for a similar winter (again, highly unlikely), I do not buy for one minute the bogus "new climate weather adjustment" bs. The winter of 2013-14 was decades into the mainstream acknowledgment of "global warming" and was the most severe winter this area had recorded. If you get a favorable pattern where everything aligns for any given region, you absolutely can get a severe winter and cc is going to do nothing to stop it.

Sunny, dry, and early color continues.