michsnowfreak

See my above post- almost EXACTLY what I was trying to say! I have lots of trees in my yard, drive a fuel efficient vehicle, work from home, recycle...I do my part. And I frankly could not care less about a warming planet. I have 4 distinct seasons regardless of ENSO or anything else. This year I have had wind chills to -40F and heat index to 105F, air temp from -10F to 98F. Most years have a similar range. Much like the east coast with its noreasters, its fascinating to see how often and how many ways the Great Lakes influence weather. If ALL of that is overshadowed by "but we are warming 0.5F per decade"....well, tell me youre not a weather enthusiast without telling me.

I agree with that, especially forecasting-wise. But I was more referring to it in past tense. Everytime anyone brings up this past winter's cold, like clockwork, the post gets dissected by the same few discussing warmth in the west/CONUS/globe etc. It really seems that a few of the warmistas have that chip on their shoulder. You should be able to use the words cold/snow WITHOUT prefacing "yes i know the worlds getting warmer" every single time. I was a weather observer before I had the internet, and I knew my local climate data history before I know how to read a single model map. Ive always thought it was cool to look into trends of local weather, and living in a place with extreme seasons, it's neat to see subtle trends that dominated decades past and how theyve changed for the better or the worse. I dont care if last winter was an inferno in the entire world, I will remember what happened here, and here it was a cold, white winter. Glittery snow for months straight gets an A+ for scenery/feels, but there is zero doubt in mind that the cold pattern that dominated the region was PROHIBITIVE to heavier snowfall here. So yes, Im saying if I wanted more snow in last years pattern, I actually needed it warmer. And of course the same rings true for the opposite. If its a colder CONUS winter, it wont mean a damn to me if I get a mild winter.

Good post. 99% of weather enthusiasts dont care what the temp ranking was in the Conus or the world...they care what happened in their area. The combination of a cold winter in the east and a record warm winter in the west in '25-26 brought some posters to ignore their own weather and concentrate on places elsewhere to a level I've never seen in 24 years on weather forums.

Its absolutely gorgeous. The past 2 winters here were nearly all powder. Here's the thing...powder is my absolute favorite. Its beautiful and last winter seemingly every night the snow glistened like diamonds. But I realized that even though I was getting my favorite powder, I missed a good wet snow. The winter of 2022-23 was the last time we had lots of paste snow. Below are 3 different 2023 snowstorms.

There was lots of snow left in the mountains when I went to Alaska last month! The last flakes of the season at Detroit were May 2nd. So if we can squeeze out early flakes in October, there will only be 3 calendar months in 2026 I don't see snow of some kind.

Interesting to see a map of 1877-78. I knew the core of warmth was in the upper midwest, because while it was certainly a mild winter at Detroit, it wasnt nearly as extreme as in Minneapolis. Ive mentioned it before, but the 1875-1882 period had a very odd "every other year" pattern locally of very cold winter followed by very mild winter. 1875-76, 1877-78, 1879-80 & 1881-82 were all warm winters overall. I have no idea how ENSO played into it outside of 1877-78. 1877-78 at Detroit (using present-day departures): Nov: 39.2F (-2.0F)....Snow 1.0" (-0.9") Dec: 38.1F (+6.8F)....Snow 1.9" (-7.0") Jan: 27.3F (+1.5F)….Snow 23.1” (+9.1”) Feb: 29.2F (+1.2F)….Snow 17.4” (+4.9”) Mar: 41.3F (+4.1F)…Snow M (est 1-2")) Apr: 53.4F (+4.5F)…Snow 0 (-1.5”) Huge storm Jan 31st (14.8"). The winter followed a somewhat similar path as other strong Ninos in that there were some very good winter blasts but the warmth won out. And realistically, thats the best formula to run a strong Nino in the north. You want that roller coaster up and down, helps with some good storms and assures you get some arctic blasts with the warm spells. Way better than mundane, stagnant 40s every day.

I literally did not step foot outside today because I know it would give me a headache.

Air absolutely choked with smoke. The smell is shockingly intense.

Kind of funny that the record warm low for July 14 is warmer at Marquette (76) than it is for Detroit (74)

Much like the last heatwave, temp somewhat underperformed here. DTW hit 94, the NWS forecast was 99.

Is that your first time hitting 100? I haven't seen 100 since 2012. How warm did it get in your house?

Not sure of its legitimacy, but I saw 105F in Big Bay. The next highest yoop numbers were a few 102s as you mentioned.

Thats all good points. I feel like the excess moisture is a huge thing. The assumption that El Nino always means dry has been failing in recent years, especially with stronger Ninos. Really thinking we get some good wet paste storms this year.

I dont care if Nino peaks at 5.0...I really only care about the weather in my backyard. I mean, most weather weenies do. Any early thoughts for Michigan? Ive been thinking 2015-16 is a decent starting point but I've also been looking more into 1877-78.

When last winters cold was becoming imminent is when I first remember the bizarre slew of posts in different languages to say it wouldn't stay cold. When snowman cant find an English tweet to say warm is when winter lovers knew it was game on.