michsnowfreak

That cansips was from Sept though...pretty far out.

On the contrary....everyone goes into strong/super ninos expecting a less wintry than avg winter. It is the warmista weenies who will lose their minds if the warmest strong nino analog doesnt turn out to be the best analog, and/or if its snowier than expected despite mild temps.

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Yeah, its the usual trolls. Penalty box is a great idea!

Who is "arguing" that? Who said anything even remotely comparing one month to another? It isnt frustration for them , its trolling. All you need to do is look at their post history...what they post about, when they post, and how they name-call and attack. That tells you everything you need to know. BTW, who said April is equivalent to any of the months below avg? Ill wait. I know I mentioned Aprils warm ranking in April. See, I have a preference (cold) but not a bias. I discuss all weather, as do others here. They do not. Its nothing but warm trolling, and then complaining that warmth is not brought up enough, tweeted enough, blah blah. Dec-Jan ranked 36th coldest of 153 years. Not a bad ranking for a winter the usual suspects thought would torch. Tell me, when have they ever even ACKNOWLEDGED a month that was colder than avg?

Looking very dry as May turns to June.

It was a rough winter for the warm troll crowd. Many of them went into hibernation but like other things in nature they woke up with the warmth of spring. This will be the 5th of the past 7 months that most of Michigan saw negative temp departures, so of course youre going to hear nothing but March/April March/April...

Exactly. The mean winter temp departures were very impressive considering it was all Dec/Feb. January was a decent winter month.

Feb 2024 was NOT forecast to be a cold month in the midwest. https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/2024-02/Feb2024_tempoutlook.gif?itok=NFbaJvRE

He would never. Look at his post history, speaks for itself. We used to think he was a former banned troll poster (but hes not) based on many of his posts. Hasnt posted in over a year (absolutely no surprise he was absent this winter). But heres his week out prediction for January 2025 (a month his hometown Chicago finished -2.6F. Detroit was -2.8F).

Wow, I didnt see a torch 2-3 months out after 4 consecutive colder than average months here. Bravo! And I couldnt think of a month I could not care less about for warmth/cold than April. The important months were cold. Speaking of aging like milk, it will be wonderful to bump this "non winter" post. We dont have "non winters" in the Great Lakes. Mild? sure. Below avg snow? Sure. No winter? Not happening. And if you're banking on a strong Nino mild winter, then calling for a warm April is a big no.

Same here in the Great Lakes- strong ninos usually are bad news. But its all relative. Winters in the Lakes and interior northeast are much harsher than the coast. So winter is more often characterized as a whole versus the coast where one huge storm (or lackthereof) often makes or breaks the winter. So basically, I already know im going to have winter, its just highly likely I'll get less of it than usual. Whereas those along coast from NYC south to the midatlantic wont be surprised in April 2027 if they've just seen a 5" winter with no storms or a 35" winter thanks to a massive storm.

Yikes its pretty much the best ones here are the worst ones there and vice versa.

To clarify...I meant 1982-83 was the absolute shittiest winter of the bunch here. I grew up with my winter-hating dad saying he remembers how "great" that winter was. My mom (who loves winter) was pregnant with me and said she remembers feeling sick at Christmas Eve midnight mass because it was warm in her coat. It was pretty much on its way to being the least snowy winter on record, with only 9" falling thru March 19, but then two spring snowstorms (Mar 21 & Apr 17) added 11" so the winter finished at 20". No winter since has seen that little snowfall. Also, it still stands as the least snowy astrononomical winter on record with only 5.8" falling Dec 21-Mar 19. 1957-58 and 1965-66 at least had some cold, white stretches but were also absolutely atrocious snow years. In fact, both finished UNDER 20" of snowfall. I only give them the nod above 1982-83 since they had some cold & white stretches in winter. With the abysmal snowfall, as you would imagine, the snowdepth was only 2-3" during these wintry stretches 1997-98 and 2023-24 sucked overall, but were better than 1957-58, 1965-66, and 1982-83. 1972-73, 1987-88, 1991-92, 2015-16 all had some fun winter stretches and while none of them were great winters Id take any of them in a heartbeat over the others.

It was frosty in much of the lower peninsula too. The U.P. is a different world BUT I am convinced Bo literally lives in the best spot possible (at least the best spot thats inhabitable) for a winter lover.