michsnowfreak

Pretty big ranges. But the low end of the range seems ridiculous for Chicago. They've had 4 winters on record with less than 15", most recently 1949. They did however have a sub-20" winter a few years ago. Detroit has not had a sub-20" winter since 1969 (came close in 1983). And Buffalo is always a wildcard depending if lake bands set up over the airport or elsewhere. Boston, Philadelphia and NYC will likely be too low if indeed a huge noreaster occurs.

Absolutely all relative. I love arctic cold. Last winter was great even without heavy total snowfall. It was cold, frozen and white. Often times the "warm" spells in strong ninos here is damp overcast with highs 37-40°, which is more uncomfortable imo than dry cold at 0°. An active pattern should hopefully promote a temp rollercoaster even though it ends up mild in the mean.

This is the actual anomaly map.

This is another excellent point. I sometimes think some get too wrapped up in the reds and blues of a temp anomaly map. Dark red in Winnipeg and blue in Atlanta? Means it's only going to be 30F colder in Winnipeg than Atlanta instead of the normal 40F colder lol.

I wish it was the Tigers...but enjoy!!!

Oh for sure. This is something a shocking number of people cant seem to grasp- that a mild seasonal mean doesnt mean no cold blasts or below avg days, it just means fewer.

41F at DTW this morning but 30s with the first frost in the rural and outlying areas.

The core of the most impressive anomalies in 1877-78 were in the far upper midwest and into Canada. It was and still is known as Minnesota's infamous "year without a winter". The temp departures, even against the current milder averages, are astounding, especially in northern Minnesota. Further east, it was a torch December here but only run-of-the-mill mild Jan/Feb, with quite a snowy stretch from late Jan to mid Feb. Detroit finished with 43.4", right around avg for snowfall, but snowfall was heavily confined to Jan-Feb, with only 1.0" in Nov, 1.9" Dec, T Mar and 0 Apr. It was certainly a mild winter in the east, but nothing like Minnesota.

Climate change autism on here is worse than snow autism. Any discussion of snow/cold (not in this thread, on any thread) hits a button with those who have cc autism. Last winter was especially brutal. There are only a small handful of posters on this board who only post about one thing and one thing only, and its not the snow crowd.

Absolutely stunning Fall day. Lots of color already. Peak may be a bit early this year.

Looks like a pretty pleasant month setting up in the southern Great Lakes, ie in the far eastern reaches of the Midwest lol. Colors rapidly popping, sunny with crisp chilly nights, temps oscillating between above and below avg.

Perfect autumn weather

The color is absolutely exploding. Crazy how it happens so quickly.

We see so many posts like that, some are trolling, some just unawareness, some maybe a combination of both. But the inability for some to differentiate between a seasonal mean and the actual day to day weather is wild. The weather ebbs and flows and changes on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. This shouldnt have to be explained repeatedly on a weather forum, but it does.

Fairbanks, AK saw the first measurable snow of the season September 30.