michsnowfreak

Honestly, 2015-16 was fine outside of December imo

No, its the Wyandotte Museum. But I love Greenfield Village!

A sweltering summer night seemed like a good time for a comparison pic. July 1/January 25

Wow. Max heat index at DTW was 104.

97 at DTW today. No record, but the hottest temp since 2019.

I know my own climate very well, but I have also learned a decent amount about the east/midatlantic after being on weather boards for 2+ decades. Warm/cold/etc are always very relative, subjective terms. It absolutely will snow here in November & December. My hunch is for above avg snow in Nov & below avg in Dec, but thats just my hunch (based on strong Nino history & an odd frequency of this occurring in even non-Nino years recently). Id lean on an avg to cold November and a mild December, but even if its warm both months, the transition to winter in the Great Lakes from Oct to Nov is a sharp one, and is very apparent even in the warmest years. Meanwhile, on the east coast/midatlantic, early season snow is never a strong bet, even in a cold pattern. So in a more hostile strong Nino pattern, bad odds just got worse. So while its not impossible, dont count on much pre-Christmas snow. January-February is when the Great Lakes region is often thrust into deep winter, so you have options ranging from that to a warmer, less favorable outcome which would actually yield a good chance for dynamic, powerful wet snowstorms. This is the time of year when literally everything has to go wrong to not see much winter. Meanwhile in the east, Jan/Feb is when climo hits its sweetspot. Pair this with a time when the overall pattern becomes more wintry for much of the nation following the assumed mild December, and the tendancy/STJ in strong Ninos for strong storms, and this is when you can be on high alert for possible huge storms.

Low at DTW 78 this morning. The hot, humid final day of June took the monthly departure from -0.1F to 0.4F at DTW. June was a very average month in the southern Great Lakes in the mean, with most locations finishing between -0.5F & +0.5F, however the last day added around a half degree departure for most.

Speaking of cansips. Its July 1st update maintains a cold look centered in the Great Lakes despite the nino strength. January is the coldest month relative to average. It warmed some in December.

The irony

Actually. Strong ninos often have cool months in the Fall. And we've already had several cool months this year, so no, i dont think every month the rest of the year will be warmer than avg.

Hes an old friend under a new name, if you know what i mean. For not posting much, its always the same thing every time.

2026 already happened and was a cold white winter. But welcome to the thread and happy trolling!

Not weird at all. In fact, done completely intentionally.

Do you have any AC?

Detroit is at -0.1F on the last day of the month so with the heat it will end up a few tenths of a degree above avg. Basically, a "normal" June anyway you slice it (generally +/- 0.5F is often considered "normal" by many). For me personally it has been a cool and very enjoyable June, due to the timing of my Alaska trip coinciding with our warmth early in the month and then my return coming with 2 weeks of below avg temps.