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Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Having some fun making a snow angel. The closest my wife has come to going outside was taking this pic from the upstairs bedroom, lol. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 3 pm, we got another 1/4" of sleet (1" so far, on top of our 8.3" of snow), so we're up to 9.3" of sleet/snow. Temp up to 17F now and pretty windy.We have another 0.7-0.8" of QPF (precip) to go as per the latest HRRR, that's 2-2.5" of sleet to go if all sleet (see the meso discussion below, which implies mostly/all sleet), but it also shows 0.1-0.2" QPF as freezing rain along 95 after 7 pm (assume that means sleet NW of 95 and rain SE of 95 during that time). Really don't want ZR, but since we might, I'm going to leave some sleet on my driveway/sidewalk to absorb any possible ZR rather than having an ice rink. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
So at 1 pm I cleared the board (as one is supposed to do after a precip change) and as of 2 pm we got another 3/4" of mixed snow/sleet, although the last 20 minutes it's been pure sleet, so our total snow/sleet total is 9.0". Newark just reported 9" and 7-10" are common all over CNJ/NNJ (my friend in Colts Neck got 9" of snow before the change). Even if we only get sleet from here on, the counties south of 78 in EPA/CNJ and then SW along 95 in SEPA/SNJ are still supposed to get heavy precip for a few more hours, so getting to my 10.1" prediction seems almost like a sure thing, give the very recent NWS update to the warning, linked below, which says we could get up to 4" more sleet/snow, plus 0.2" freezing rain on top (but that's not a given at all). The northern counties N of 78 are expected to get 2-8" more snow/sleet - that range is so wide because some will get all snow (likely the Poconos/Sussex) and some will have sleet mixing. https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=PHI&wwa=winter storm warning -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 12 pm, we had 7.0" of snow and it was snowing very heavily at 14F. I then shoveled for the next hour and around 12:40 or so, some sleet mixed in, but it wasn't "classic" spherical pellets, it looked more like small rods that might've actually been poorly formed flakes - weird stuff. Anyway, finished my 2nd shoveling (denser) around 1 pm and we now have about 8.3", but it's getting harder to tell as the winds have picked up considerably, blowing/drifting the snow, so I had to average a bunch of measurements (luckily there's old crusty snow underneath, so not measuring on the board isn't an issue like it is on grass). Made a nice snow angel. Definitely a mix of snow and sleet and it keeps oscillating on which one dominates. And if you want to see downtown Metuchen, News12 is doing a remote from there. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 12 pm, we had 7.0" of snow and it was snowing very heavily at 14F. I then shoveled for the next hour and around 12:40 or so, some sleet mixed in, but it wasn't "classic" spherical pellets, it looked more like small rods that might've actually been poorly formed flakes - weird stuff. Anyway, finished my 2nd shoveling (denser) around 1 pm and we now have about 8.3", but it's getting harder to tell as the winds have picked up considerably, blowing/drifting the snow, so I had to average a bunch of measurements (luckily there's old crusty snow underneath, so not measuring on the board isn't an issue like it is on grass). Made a nice snow angel. Definitely a mix of snow and sleet and it keeps oscillating on which one dominates. And if you want to see downtown Metuchen, News12 is doing a remote from there. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 11 am, still snowing heavily and up to 6.0" of snow otg, for a rate of 1.6"/hr the last 30 minutes - wow! 13F and just pouring snow. Sleet line looks to be in Wilmington - latest HRRR has us in snow until about 3 pm and if that verifies, we'd get another 6" or so before the sleet. We'll see, but certainly seems like 9-10" is a lock before the change and then maybe 1-2" sleet (but likely mixed with some snow, so maybe higher ratios than 3:1 for pure sleet). Also, I got my snow to liquid ratio for the snow that fell through about 9:00 am when we had about 3.6" of snow - it was 14:1. I thought it would be at least 15:1, so off on that guess a little bit, probably because the flakes the first few hours were not large dendrites, so even though they were smaller dendrites and very dry, they packed in more than expected. Did this by taking a 6" x 6" x 3.6" cube of snow and melting it and doing the volume ratio. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 10:30 am, snowing legitimately heavily (1/4 mile visibility) with a bit larger dendrites and we now have 5.2" otg (1.2" last hour) at 13F (10F dewpoint). Just went for a Jeb Walk and took a few pics - gorgeous out there. Also, I got my snow to liquid ratio for the snow that fell through about 9:00 am when we had about 3.6" of snow - it was 14:1. I thought it would be at least 15:1, so off on that guess a little bit, probably because the flakes the first few hours were not large dendrites, so even though they were smaller dendrites and very dry, they packed in more than expected. Did this by taking a 6" x 6" x 3.6" cube of snow and melting it and doing the volume ratio. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 10:30 am, snowing legitimately heavily (1/4 mile visibility) with a bit larger dendrites and we now have 5.2" otg (1.2" last hour) at 13F (10F dewpoint). Just went for a Jeb Walk and took a few pics - gorgeous out there. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Here's a PSA for snowfall measurement: clear the board after the change to sleet and sum the snow and sleet measurements together; otherwise you'll likely get some compaction. This is from a great article on snow measurement in The Conversation based on NWS guidelines. Or maybe we'll get lucky and get no sleet, lol. More complicated cases of measurement So, let’s consider three common scenarios. Here in the eastern U.S., we often have to deal with snow that changes to rain during the course of a storm. Imagine 6.0 inches (15 cm) of snow falls, then an inch (2.5 cm) of sleet which compacts the snow to a 4-inch (10-cm) depth. Then, on top of that falls an inch of freezing rain which further compacts the snow to 2.6-inch (6.6-cm) depth by the end of the observation period. What should be listed as the daily snowfall? The snow depth? In this situation, when the snow transitions to sleet, the snow board should be cleared and the maximum depth of snow recorded – 6 inches (15 cm) in this case. Do the same with the sleet and this will add an inch (2.5 cm) to the snowfall – technically, “solid precipitation” – total. Freezing rain is never added to the daily snowfall total because it is in liquid form when it reaches the ground. Thus, the daily snowfall is 7.0 inches (measured to the nearest tenth of an inch) (17.8 cm), while the snow depth at observation is rounded up from 2.6 inches (6.6 cm) to 3 inches (7.6 cm). https://theconversation.com/how-is-snowfall-measured-a-meteorologist-explains-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Here's a PSA for snowfall measurement: clear the board after the change to sleet and sum the snow and sleet measurements together; otherwise you'll likely get some compaction. This is from a great article on snow measurement in The Conversation based on NWS guidelines. Or maybe we'll get lucky and get no sleet, lol. More complicated cases of measurement So, let’s consider three common scenarios. Here in the eastern U.S., we often have to deal with snow that changes to rain during the course of a storm. Imagine 6.0 inches (15 cm) of snow falls, then an inch (2.5 cm) of sleet which compacts the snow to a 4-inch (10-cm) depth. Then, on top of that falls an inch of freezing rain which further compacts the snow to 2.6-inch (6.6-cm) depth by the end of the observation period. What should be listed as the daily snowfall? The snow depth? In this situation, when the snow transitions to sleet, the snow board should be cleared and the maximum depth of snow recorded – 6 inches (15 cm) in this case. Do the same with the sleet and this will add an inch (2.5 cm) to the snowfall – technically, “solid precipitation” – total. Freezing rain is never added to the daily snowfall total because it is in liquid form when it reaches the ground. Thus, the daily snowfall is 7.0 inches (measured to the nearest tenth of an inch) (17.8 cm), while the snow depth at observation is rounded up from 2.6 inches (6.6 cm) to 3 inches (7.6 cm). https://theconversation.com/how-is-snowfall-measured-a-meteorologist-explains-how-volunteers-tally-up-winter-storms-175628 -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
Yeah, looks like it's almost in Cape May -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 8:30 am snowing moderately and we have 3.1" otg (1.1" last hour) and it's 11F. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
NWS maps hard to follow these days. This is a weird range map at odds with the colors, plus it starts at 7 am, so it's not the event map, which is below, starting at 4 am, so I don't think they cut amounts. Wish they'd only issue event maps - users can look and compare to what they have so far. -
January 25-26 Winter Storm Potential
RU848789 replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
As of 8:00 am 2.6" otg at 11F, so 0.6" the last 30 min - can't imagine not making it to at least 8" with at least 5 hours of >1"/hr rates before any changeover (and hopefully the changeover is after that and rates are more than 1" per hour until then). Started around 5 am. -
Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26
RU848789 replied to TriPol's topic in New York City Metro
As of 8:00 am 2.6" otg at 11F, so 0.6" the last 30 min - can't imagine not making it to at least 8" with at least 5 hours of >1"/hr rates before any changeover (and hopefully the changeover is after that and rates are more than 1" per hour until then).

