Superstorm93 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Could be a decent first system...HRRR wind analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Nice looking tower for a little pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil882 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Per radar it looks like the center may be trying to redevelop further into the deep convection. Hard to tell of it's a mid level vortex or not but a decent velocity couplet is showing up embedded in the higher reflectivity returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormspotterlive Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That HRRR Model really wants to crank up the wind on the east side of the center overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil882 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's also worth noting this is the first time the HRRR has gotten agrees dove with TD#1. If the new center is developing in the embedded reflectivity, we might see more abrupt strengthening than predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's also worth noting this is the first time the HRRR has gotten agrees dove with TD#1. If the new center is developing in the embedded reflectivity, we might see more abrupt strengthening than predicted.Really looks like the center is beginning to get going off of TPBI. Convection continues to go off over the center, so it's possible that it could relocate in that area. Would at least make a stronger system in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Over/under this thing makes landfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative-nao Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Thunderstorms are starting to crank up near the center http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/01L/flash-rb-long.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Northerly shear appears to have decreased a tad; at least temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smog strangler Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Forecasted track included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Have to wait to see if TD1 becomes more organized with its convection, or if this is just another bursting episode. Could be interesting if this sticks around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil882 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Not sure if this is the center, but if you take a look at this loop you see a very interesting feature further south of where the center was listed. It was mentioned on TWC a bit ago, and has only looked better defined since. http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=MLB-N0Q-1-48 That what I was referring to. It's has a significant velocity cuplet which indicates at least a robust mid-level vortex embedded in the convection. If the llc can align with this feature then we have a more interesting short term forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalAnalystwx13 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That what I was referring to. It's has a significant velocity cuplet which indicates at least a robust mid-level vortex embedded in the convection. If the llc can align with this feature then we have a more it's resting short term forecast. A ship sampled easterly winds north of the new feature embedded within the deep convection and southeast of the low-level swirl, so I'd be more inclined to believe it exists at the surface. Perhaps the one in the convection will become dominant and the swirl exiting west-northwest will die off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 A ship sampled easterly winds north of the new feature embedded within the deep convection and southeast of the low-level swirl, so I'd be more inclined to believe it exists at the surface. Perhaps the one in the convection will become dominant and the swirl exiting west-northwest will die off. I'm thinking the same thing, although the larger (old) circulation is going to take some time to spin down due to the momentum of the mass of air it has spun up. I like the HRRR idea of things, with their being an elongation of the surface low before fujiwara'ing until it all consolidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Could get interestin' up these here parts!!! Hmmmm...real early, too. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calamity Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Per radar it looks like the center may be trying to redevelop further into the deep convection. Hard to tell of it's a mid level vortex or not but a decent velocity couplet is showing up embedded in the higher reflectivity returns. I noticed that, too. Here's an example of center relocation in Alex (2004). There are probably more modern examples, but I selected Alex mainly because TD One is forecast to follow a similar track. Oh, and obligatory CalamityLoop™: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Even the satellite appearances of Alex and soon-to-be Arthur look similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlwx Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 TROPICAL DEPRESSION ONE DISCUSSION NUMBER 2 NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL012014 500 AM EDT TUE JUL 01 2014 Radar and satellite imagery show little change in the organization of the tropical cyclone over the past few hours. The main area of deep convection remains situated over the southern portion of the circulation, and banding features are not yet very prominent in enhanced infrared images. Surface observations and Doppler radar velocities suggest that little strengthening has occurred thus far, and the current intensity is held at 30 kt. This is also in agreement with the latest subjective Dvorak estimates from TAFB, and objective estimates from UW/CIMSS. There hasn't been much motion early this morning, but the best guess is that the cyclone is now drifting mainly westward, or about 260/2. The overall steering scenario seems relatively straightforward. A mid-tropospheric trough that is currently over the north-central United States is predicted by the global models to move eastward and dig a bit over the next several days. This should cause the tropical cyclone to turn northward and north-northeastward with some acceleration during the next 2-3 days, followed by a turn toward the northeast with an additional increase in forward speed later in the forecast period. The official forecast track is similar to the previous one, close to the model consensus, and to the left of the latest ECMWF solution. Numerical guidance shows favorable conditions for intensification with weak shear and developing upper-level outflow over the cyclone during the next 72 hours or so. The official intensity forecast now shows the system becoming a hurricane, which is similar to the latest intensity model consensus. By the end of the forecast period, the global guidance indicates that the cyclone will merge with a baroclinic zone near Nova Scotia, which should result in extratropical transition. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 01/0900Z 27.6N 79.3W 30 KT 35 MPH 12H 01/1800Z 27.9N 79.4W 35 KT 40 MPH 24H 02/0600Z 28.5N 79.6W 40 KT 45 MPH 36H 02/1800Z 29.5N 79.5W 45 KT 50 MPH 48H 03/0600Z 30.8N 79.1W 50 KT 60 MPH 72H 04/0600Z 34.3N 76.4W 65 KT 75 MPH 96H 05/0600Z 39.5N 69.5W 65 KT 75 MPH 120H 06/0600Z 44.0N 62.0W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP $$ Forecaster Pasch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Per latest radar imagery it would appear that thunderstorms are close to wrapping entirely around the center. It also appears to be drifing ever so slightly to the WNW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The center looks like it has finally started its trek NNW. It's right on the northern edge of the CDO and looks like it separating from the heaviest convection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercane Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The center looks like it has finally started its trek NNW. It's right on the northern edge of the CDO and looks like it separating from the heaviest convection. Looks like it's still drifting WNW to me. I'm not seeing any increased separation from the convection either: http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The strength of that trough and how much it digs is going to be the main driver of how far west this system can get during the recurve correct? Any more west shift on the track brings it onshore so its going to be real close. Looks like I might have to make that drive to morehead city Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like outflow is finally starting to become established as the CDO is expanding nicely in the latest IR loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Note: Mods please change the title of the thread once recon gets in and finds a tropical storm. I will be working most of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderrr Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We have Arthur: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like a slight NW shift in the track...actually bringing it very close, if not over, the Outer Banks as a hurricane. Luckily, it will be racing NE by that time and should clear out quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercane Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like it will become a hurricane later on today http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/145625.shtml?5-daynl?large#contents No, the forecast is for it to become a hurricane Thursday or Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like it's still drifting WNW to me. I'm not seeing any increased separation from the convection either: http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html My bad...it must've been an eddy that I saw spinning around the main circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 No, the forecast is for it to become a hurricane Thursday or Friday. The NHC mentioned in the discussion that the outflow is improving a bit ahead of schedule on the northern semicircle. I would think if that's the case we could see steady strengthening the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The center that is embedded in the convection is doing a bit of fujiwara'ing attm. A ship report in the convection about an hour ago reported 1002mb and 41mph sustained out of the SSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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