powderfreak Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Fascinating comparison to the Moore tornado one year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I find myself listening to older music from the 80s and 90s more and more. The stuff out now just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Great time lapse of a super cell that was filmed a couple of days ago. Interesting how little precip falls and how it dissipates at the end. A must watch... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6iK-0Qv8uM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I find myself listening to older music from the 80s and 90s more and more. The stuff out now just sucks.I like a few new artists but I am forever listening to late 60s early 70s rock and blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Great time lapse of a super cell that was filmed a couple of days ago. Interesting how little precip falls and how it dissipates at the end. A must watch... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6iK-0Qv8uM Classic LP (low precip) supercell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Fascinating comparison to the Moore tornado one year later. image.jpg The angles are a bit off, the newer photo is centered more to the north on areas that weren't hit. They still cleaned up well though...hopefully not too well. The lessons of 1999 were only partially learned by the time 2013 rolled in. Maybe at some point people will realize that building a house to withstand extreme winds, or at least having an underground shelter, is not really optional in Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 She's like 4 yrs younger than me. Shauna Vargas. Shaunna is a lot older than me, but I played soccer and basketball with her younger brother, so I knew her family pretty well. That's pretty cool... small world indeed. Speaking of Tolland, does anyone know why the Leela Way weather station on Wunderground hasn't been working for the past few months? The Brendan Heights station in Stafford hasn't been reporting either (I think that is MetHerb's) and those were my two favorites. The other stations in this area don't seem to be as reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolland Death Band Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The Leela home is unoccupied due to a bankruptcy/breakup, I am told by folks who live there on my baseball team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Classic LP (low precip) supercell. Plus the precip that does fall will be downshear and mostly out of the frame, and it's hard to see large hail falling on camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Plus the precip that does fall will be downshear and mostly out of the frame, and it's hard to see large hail falling on camera. Yep, I think that thing was dropping baseballs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yep, I think that thing was dropping baseballs too. Scott, so in a supercell the rain would be falling from the anvil in front of the storm, or to the photographers back? So typically if one was say NE of a NE moving supercell you could get rain going to hail and then at the rear flank the tornado? The tornado would be the last part of the storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Scott, so in a supercell the rain would be falling from the anvil in front of the storm, or to the photographers back? So typically if one was say NE of a NE moving supercell you could get rain going to hail and then at the rear flank the tornado? The tornado would be the last part of the storm? Rain would fall downshear of the updraft. So yes, in theory your idea would be correct. But usually the supercell is moving at least a little to the right of the shear. For instance if the shear was carrying the precip to the northeast of the updraft..usually the supercell will be moving more ENE or even east. It's part of the reason why they can sustain themselves. They'll have an untainted supply of warm moist air feeding in when that happens. Shear carries precip downstream, away from the updraft LP supercell more or less means that not much rain is falling near the meso..unlike HP supercells which can have rain wrapped tornadoes. This is just a simplistic explanation as their are a lot of other things going on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Rain would fall downshear of the updraft. So yes, in theory your idea would be correct. But usually the supercell is moving at least a little to the right of the shear. For instance if the shear was carrying the precip to the northeast of the updraft..usually the supercell will be moving more ENE or even east. It's part of the reason why they can sustain themselves. They'll have an untainted supply of warm moist air feeding in when that happens. Shear carries precip downstream, away from the updraft LP supercell more or less means that not much rain is falling near the meso..unlike HP supercells which can have rain wrapped tornadoes. This is just a simplistic explanation as their are a lot of other things going on too. Here's a good image to visualize it. The updraft is located near and just to the right of the hook echo, so the forward flank precip is falling to the photographers right and behind them in classic/LP cases. When they go HP, then you're basically looking at Pacman, and the only way you see the tornado is to get right in front of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Rain would fall downshear of the updraft. So yes, in theory your idea would be correct. But usually the supercell is moving at least a little to the right of the shear. For instance if the shear was carrying the precip to the northeast of the updraft..usually the supercell will be moving more ENE or even east. It's part of the reason why they can sustain themselves. They'll have an untainted supply of warm moist air feeding in when that happens. Shear carries precip downstream, away from the updraft LP supercell more or less means that not much rain is falling near the meso..unlike HP supercells which can have rain wrapped tornadoes. This is just a simplistic explanation as their are a lot of other things going on too. Thanks Scott for the explanation. Several years a picture I took won grand price in Weather Wise magazine. I won a spot on a tour guide tornado chase team. We saw several super cells like this, just awesome to see it in person. Saw 2 tornadoes from several miles away. I wanted to get closer but for liability they stayed miles away. I realized chasing is much harder than I thought, being at the right place, at the right time and having roads to travel on. That was before the days that everyone was doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The Leela home is unoccupied due to a bankruptcy/breakup, I am told by folks who live there on my baseball team. Oh man, that's sad... thanks for the update though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 i can do this weather til november. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 i can do this weather til november. Winter wonderland. http://twitter.com/islivingston/status/469268296672358401/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Was thinking....with El Nino virtually a lock....we have a good shot of an early season snow event. Looking back...Nov '86, '87, '97, 02,'04..etc all had one. I'm sure you can go back further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 remind me in 6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 It's just so dam boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Was thinking....with El Nino virtually a lock....we have a good shot of an early season snow event. Looking back...Nov '86, '87, '97, 02,'04..etc all had one. I'm sure you can go back further. 2009 as well. Actually '09 had two events. Oct 15-16 and 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 2009 as well. Actually '09 had two events. Oct 15-16 and 18. Yeah I was thinking about those..but wanted to include more overall snow events. We had that nice Dec 5th event too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Yeah I was thinking about those..but wanted to include more overall snow events. We had that nice Dec 5th event too. '12-'13 kind of acted like a weak Nino...never officially quite got there, but it made a run. Nov 2012 had that snow event on Nov 6-7th too. The '68-'69 Nino had a big November for snow. Nov 1972 had a couple snow events too...then the winter went to crap after December, lol. The Ninos of 1965 and 1957 though were awful early on...couldn't get those early season snow events. Often Nino Decembers stink, but you have chances before December...not those years. Just suckage until the pattern turned awesome both years in mid/late January. 2006-2007 was also a total dud early on...though October 2006 was very cold and had some snow chances but never really managed to get anything here in SNE. BUF got their epic October LES event that year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Unfortunately for CT Blizz, the heat wasn't in New England this April. How does NOAA calculate an average world temp for a month out of curiosity? Remote sensing from satellites or on the ground observing stations or both? April Ties For Hottest Ever On Record For The Globe SETH BORENSTEINAP05/20/14 06:33 PM ET WASHINGTON (AP) — Once again, the world hit record heat levels. The average global temperature last month tied the hottest April on record four years ago. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Tuesday say last month's average temperature was 58.1 degrees Fahrenheit (14.5 degrees Celsius). That was 1.39 degrees F (0.77 C) warmer than the average last century.The last time the globe's monthly temperature was cooler than normal was February 1985. NOAA scientist Jessica Blunden said April's heat was driven especially by Siberia and Eurasia. She said the United States and Canada were the few exceptions. Canada was a bit cooler than normal and the United States was a tad warmer than normal. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5360948 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Unfortunately for CT Blizz, the heat wasn't in New England this April. How does NOAA calculate an average world temp for a month out of curiosity? Remote sensing from satellites or on the ground observing stations or both? April Ties For Hottest Ever On Record For The Globe SETH BORENSTEINAP05/20/14 06:33 PM ET WASHINGTON (AP) — Once again, the world hit record heat levels. The average global temperature last month tied the hottest April on record four years ago. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Tuesday say last month's average temperature was 58.1 degrees Fahrenheit (14.5 degrees Celsius). That was 1.39 degrees F (0.77 C) warmer than the average last century.The last time the globe's monthly temperature was cooler than normal was February 1985. NOAA scientist Jessica Blunden said April's heat was driven especially by Siberia and Eurasia. She said the United States and Canada were the few exceptions. Canada was a bit cooler than normal and the United States was a tad warmer than normal. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5360948 They calculate it with GHCN data...it is all surface based. GHCN is adjusted data (for things like TOBS and UHI), and then NCDC will take that data and calculate an average anomaly from it. GISS (NASA) essentially does the same thing but they each have their different methods of infilling between datapoints. They used to use satellite-aided SST data, but they no longer do...they never gave an explanation on why they switched their SST dataset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 They calculate it with GHCN data...it is all surface based. GHCN is adjusted data (for things like TOBS and UHI), and then NCDC will take that data and calculate an average anomaly from it. GISS (NASA) essentially does the same thing but they each have their different methods of infilling between datapoints. They used to use satellite-aided SST data, but they no longer do...they never gave an explanation on why they switched their SST dataset. Interesting and good to know, I was wondering if they adjust for UHI, and growing population areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Interesting and good to know, I was wondering if they adjust for UHI, and growing population areas. Imagine if they all had Kevin's Davis. A cold world, yet unusually high dewpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Imagine if they all had Kevin's Davis. A cold world, yet unusually high dewpoints. lol the winter months would be the coldest for the planet on record, while the summer months would be warmest ever recorded...and it would all equal out to annual temps showing no climate change at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Just snapped this of the big Hawk that terrorizes us each spring. Anyone know what type this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I have one as well. Also saw an owl in my Hemlock. Probably red tail? Any hawk is a good hawk...they eat the rodents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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