Sickman Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Continue discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Some fellow wrote....(before I was interrupted by the thread locking): "Sorry for the OT but just wanted to know where you get this info from? Is there a map with the average snowfall for the NYC metro? If yes, can you provide a link? " The data comes from Joseph Brumbach's The Climate of Connecticut...Mr Brumbach was the state climatologist some time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Some fellow wrote....(before I was interrupted by the thread locking): "Sorry for the OT but just wanted to know where you get this info from? Is there a map with the average snowfall for the NYC metro? If yes, can you provide a link? " The data comes from Joseph Brumbach's The Climate of Connecticut...Mr Brumbach was the state climatologist some time ago... Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I still don't see how all the energy and moisture just screws us. Granted there will not be the full phase fun fest the models showed 2 days ago. I just can't see throwing the towel. I think there will be a serious winner. I originally said Phl well we shall see I'm not buying the penn screw zone. 2/5-6/10 was a spectacular fail. I just think that screw zone will be further north this time. Somone in uptons zone sees 8" IMO band woulnt be set I'm stone till the high res models get in the zone. So much moisture and energy! Massive temp difffrences due to the time of the year and lingering questions in regards to PV placement. I wouldn't bet the farm just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momza Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Looking at current conditions (water vapor) surface movement etc., hard to believe this all will be moved south by the supposedly strong pv. If the models get this right, no more bad mouthing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svh19044 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Looking at current conditions (water vapor) surface movement etc., hard to believe this all will be moved south by the supposedly strong pv. If the models get this right, no more bad mouthing....... Purely looking at the sat., it's tough to argue with that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 SREF south, 0.50 contour just south of NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Why are you people wanting more than 3-6....its still going to snow...dont understand the giving up posts...its just not going to snow as much as you want. Stop trying to hang onto some upton disco as reason you are getting a foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Looking at current conditions (water vapor) surface movement etc., hard to believe this all will be moved south by the supposedly strong pv. If the models get this right, no more bad mouthing....... Looked the exact same way before Feb 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The threads quite cause all the wishcaters that normally flood these threads are out drinking lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I have a hard time believing there will be a substantial enough north shift in the models to put the NYC metro area back into the heaviest snow, the model consensus is just to overwhelming in my opinion. With that being said, the storm is certainly something to keep an eye on and I think nowcasting will become critically important once things start to get going as any decent north shift could have significant impact results. With all this being said I still think 3-6" looks good for the NYC metro area and more as you go south obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Sref have 0.5" up to si, 0.75" up to about 195 and 1" south of ocean/burlington counties.. Kblm went from 0.78 to 0.72.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wait. .. When was this ever a mega epic event? And no... It's still going to snow (we think) but for cnj it's gonna be less than the initial potential. Way too many people constantly throw out references to big storms during this storm and other storms this winter.....leads people to believe that there's a chance at everything becoming a 20" event, even though there was only ever a CHANCE of 6-12", MAXSent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 EWR, JFK, LGA all between .41-.49 on SREF mean a drop of about .2 from 15z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The max for this was always about 12 inches.....for some reasons weenies believe evrry storm should be huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Nam is lookin south Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Precip shield doesn't look as good for 1st wave thru 18h on NAM, 850s much further south compared to 18z, but surface temps actually a little warmer. The cold air is really flooding down the middle of the country even more so than 12z and 18z, will probably push the 2nd part of the storm even further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yeah, this run is worse than 18z, which is worse than 12z, etc etc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The max for this was always about 12 inches.....for some reasons weenies believe evrry storm should be huge There is a banter thread for your ctrl+v rants, take it there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Crazy...Richmond, Virginia is in for 4-7". More than LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Nam is even south for D.C lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 This actually looks a little better than 18z at 33h, precip is slightly more expansive to the north for our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 This actually looks a little better than 18z at 33h, precip is slightly more expansive to the north for our area. I'm sorry, but this is 100% wrong. This run is further south with the first AND second waves Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 At least the 00Z NAM has 12 hours of light snow falling over NYC with the moderate snow just to the south for a few hours. I'd say this is 2-4" for NYC. 0.22 QPF at KLGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wow, if the 0z nam is right, even philly has a hard time getting in on the "bigger totals" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 At least the 00Z NAM has 12 hours of light snow falling over NYC with the moderate snow just to the south for a few hours. I'd say this is 2-4" for NYC. and the amts keep getting lower.....2-4 is nuisance stuff. And 1-3 is ignore it and get on with life. I just hope local schools don't panic based on the previous hype and shut schools in north jersey down again for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Wow, if the 0z nam is right, even philly has a hard time getting in on the "bigger totals"Well, we don't want to act selfish.....but I'm sure we'd all rather miss it by hundreds of miles rather than watch a heavy snow band stay 50 miles to our south. The jackpot now looks to be around Charlottesville, VA even south of DC! Crazy that Richmond could be in the jackpot soon!Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I still don't see how all the energy and moisture just screws us. Granted there will not be the full phase fun fest the models showed 2 days ago. I just can't see throwing the towel. I think there will be a serious winner. I originally said Phl well we shall see I'm not buying the penn screw zone. 2/5-6/10 was a spectacular fail. I just think that screw zone will be further north this time. Somone in uptons zone sees 8" IMO band woulnt be set I'm stone till the high res models get in the zone. So much moisture and energy! Massive temp difffrences due to the time of the year and lingering questions in regards to PV placement. I wouldn't bet the farm just yet2/6/10 had tons of moisture and energy too and the PV destroyed all of it. This can definitely be a screwing if the PV is too suppressive. Dry air will always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 is it possible that this could be so suppressed that it eventually circles the globe and approaches us from the north? probably not enough time for that. i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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