clueless Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Dry Up or on the rocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Only 1 hour until all our hopes, dreams, and fantasies are summarily crushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The March climo point is legit but clearly North America isn't seeing typical temperatures next two weeks. If the cloud deck is thick enough to battle the sun on Monday, what's to stop ice accumulation? If ice fails, it will be for the same reasons it fails in January...the synoptic setup. We're playing overplaying the "ice can't happen here in March" angle, but it's part of our pathology here...even in an optimal setup we'd kvetch about how we're gonna get screwed, etc. It's hard wired living here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Only 1 hour until all our hopes, dreams, and fantasies are summarily crushed Or a party breaks out. I think the Euro is gonna be good. It'll turn the ship around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Or a party breaks out. I think the Euro is gonna be good. It'll turn the ship around. Do you think it will favor the GFS solution of temps of 18 at DCA or the GGEM solution that gives us 8" of powder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Or a party breaks out. I think the Euro is gonna be good. It'll turn the ship around. Yeah, this. Party or crash and die with the king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hm said yesterday that we not want to dismiss the ice idea. Looks like he might b right. I wonder how much faith we all would have if the GFS had shown rain and warmth ? My guess we all would thrown in the towel. We really r jaded from past experiences. I really would not dismiss anything yet, especially round two. There may be enough cooling from high building in and ageostrophic aid from frontogen to keep things cooler. The air mass coming into northern plains and southern Canada is nothing short of amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We're playing overplaying the "ice can't happen here in March" angle, but it's part of our pathology here...even in an optimal setup we'd kvetch about how we're gonna get screwed, etc. It's hard wired living here. I'm not really arguing ice can't happen as much as the GFS probably being wrong with sfc temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsnowlover Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 West of the fall line folks. for what!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We're playing overplaying the "ice can't happen here in March" angle, but it's part of our pathology here...even in an optimal setup we'd kvetch about how we're gonna get screwed, etc. It's hard wired living here. I understand and really the models handling the circulation over Canada more and more like Euro definitely did reduce wintry expectations. So, now we watch the low level flow and frontogen stuff to see how low levels trend. Far from over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peribonca Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 snowfan will be correct because technically Colorado is west of the fall line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 for what!! you're being needy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I am just asking, but where is Wes? Appreciate all the HM input BTW! He has said everything I would have never known to look at! DT was more in favor of the EURO with the flow going south and then east. But we have been commenting on this already. But where is Wes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I am just asking, but where is Wes? Appreciate all the HM input BTW! He has said everything I would have never known to look at! DT was more in favor of the EURO with the flow going south and then east. But we have been commenting on this already. But where is Wes? Kissimmee Chain in Florida chasing big Bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsnowlover Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 you're being needy today. nothin like you bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think i need to clear up my opinion on a "serious" ice storm. It has to include roads. When it was dumping snow here yesterday it was 26-27 degrees. Shortly after daybreak the roads were a mess but they quickly turned wet while it was still dumping and plenty of clouds. I'm sure ice can accrete on trees and parked cars and such on Monday but from a getting around town point of view it will be a no nevermind by 10am or so. I'm confident in that unless the gfs temps really do verify but I won't hold my breath on that. As long as there is light coming through the clouds it will be warm enough to keep streets wet. And damaging ice on trees and powerlines needs to push a 1/2" before it's a serious concern. I'm skeptical of that as well. I hope I'm proven wrong because I like high impact weather but I've lived here for 35 of the last 42 years so I'm not just making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Maybe we need WWWD shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherCCB Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I really would not dismiss anything yet, especially round two. There may be enough cooling from high building in and ageostrophic aid from frontogen to keep things cooler. The air mass coming into northern plains and southern Canada is nothing short of amazing. Yeah, I've been wondering if the globals r underestimating the cold coming in. Guess we need to wait a few days for the short range higher resolution models to give a better profile of the set up. HM, thanks for all input that you provide this forum. I really look forward to your posts. Your expert analysis is really needed and appreciated . Keeps the weenies in check. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 i lol'ed https://twitter.com/DTVaWeatherman/status/439093034530394112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 i lol'ed https://twitter.com/DTVaWeatherman/status/439093034530394112 That is hilarious. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Do you think it will favor the GFS solution of temps of 18 at DCA or the GGEM solution that gives us 8" of powder? The Euro is a follower. Of course it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 But the baroclinic leaf...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 12z GGEM meteogram for DCA -- http://meteocentre.com/models/get_mgram.php?stn=Washington&mod=gemglb&run=12&var=prcp〈=en&map=us Very nice... lets see if the Canadians can pull it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 EURO looks better with the PV & colder overall thus far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 EURO looks better with the PV & colder overall thus far it is....not sure it will matter much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 definitely colder...will see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 even if it doesnt end up great, the shift is markedly bigger than we usually see run to run on the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 even if it isnt great, the shift is markedly bigger than we usually see run to run on the euro is it more wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 way colder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 even if it doesnt end up great, the shift is markedly bigger than we usually see run to run on the euro Dr. Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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