dmc76 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Why not? All ready a few negative post this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 bone dry, brutal cold, and boring...doesn't get much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Useless thread and those who are complaining should stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 stebo for mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I was so bored the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Lol part 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I can't tell if Stebo is satirizing himself. A+ if that was intentional. My 4-8" isn't going to materialize. Looks like 2-3" at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 I can't tell if Stebo is satirizing himself. A+ if that was intentional. My 4-8" isn't going to materialize. Looks like 2-3" at best. Seen the long range for Edmonton -14F for the high on Wednesday??? Damn let us know how brutal that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hope the EPO stays negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The AO should go negative at some point.... Just looking at past data, it usually flips between the two states at least 3 times during DJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Seen the long range for Edmonton -14F for the high on Wednesday??? Damn let us know how brutal that is. May not step outside that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The AO should go negative at some point.. Hopefully in our hemisphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I may make a home in here mid-month when I'm at like 3" on the season and staring a pattern flip in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I was so bored the other day. awesome, this thread might be a better fit. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/41754-2013-2014-winter-sports-discussion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I may make a home in here mid-month when I'm at like 3" on the season and staring a pattern flip in the face. The long range GFS has been shedding the warm up idea... Usually just one or two storms define the season outside the lakes, so you really can't worry that much. With the lakes so close, its like living in the valley near the mountains, so close, but no cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The long range GFS has been shedding the warm up idea... Usually just one or two storms define the season outside the lakes, so you really can't worry that much. With the lakes so close, its like living in the valley near the mountains, so close, but no cigar. The deck is being shuffled toward the end of the run (12z) with a warmer pattern about to commence. Whether it verifies, whether it doesn't, whether it gets delayed, we'll see. It seems unlikely that we'll have 100 days in a row of -EPO so when it relaxes, we'll need help from elsewhere. I think 1 or 2 storms defining a season is more applicable on the east coast/I-95. Our big dog climo isn't as good as theirs. Other than 1998-99 (blizzard of '99) and 2006-2007 (VD) I can't really think of other recent examples of a storm defining a season. Edit: I guess you could include the storm in late March of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Seen the long range for Edmonton -14F for the high on Wednesday??? Damn let us know how brutal that is. May not step outside that day. Brutal as that is, I'd still prefer that from Miami or Seattle. At least cold like that prevents diseases such as those seen in the tropics from surviving up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Brutal as that is, I'd still prefer that from Miami or Seattle. At least cold like that prevents diseases such as those seen in the tropics from surviving up here. you keep telling yourself that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I really don't like my own climo... I would relocate to Houghton or Traverse City in a heartbeat if it was logistically possible, which it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 my only complaint at this point is that the days will begin to grow in length in 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I really don't like my own climo... I would relocate to Houghton or Traverse City in a heartbeat if it was logistically possible, which it isn't. yeah your climo is pretty awful....weak spring severe prospects and typical non-mountain, non-lake, and non-east coast crap winters. maybe a move up to the lake belts after retirement? springs would be god awful but you'll save big in snow commuting costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Can I complain about this NOT being my forecast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I really don't like my own climo... I would relocate to Houghton or Traverse City in a heartbeat if it was logistically possible, which it isn't.The born there - pure ganders have a name for transplants that come south of Midland...Fudgies. I got my place in Elk Rapids for the beach and summer chilling. I used to ponder the eventual move up that way. But the long winters no longer have that romantic appeal to me. I personally love the climo around here. We get all 4 seasons and the winters are not overly brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The born there - pure ganders have a name for transplants that come south of Midland... Fudgies. I got my place in Elk Rapids for the beach and summer chilling. I used to ponder the eventual move up that way. But the long winters no longer have that romantic appeal to me. Its not as bad as you would think it is.... Two week longer winter and pretty similar fall start time. The difference is that when winter is here, they get snow and we more often than not... get leftovers from frontal passages and under-performing snowstorms. We probably average 2 warning criteria events per winter down here. The real sucky thing about being in SE Michigan is that we aren't in SW Michigan. Grand Rapids is just a better, more thriving place, with a closer proximity to a Midwest summer destination. The east side of the state sucks, there is no real denying that. The dunes, LES, beaches, economy and beauty is on the west side of the state. I live here to make money, but I have no plans hanging around on the weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 yeah your climo is pretty awful....weak spring severe prospects and typical non-mountain, non-lake, and non-east coast crap winters. maybe a move up to the lake belts after retirement? springs would be god awful but you'll save big in snow commuting costs. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Its not as bad as you would think it is.... Two week longer winter and pretty similar fall start time. The difference is that when winter is here, they get snow and we more often than not... get leftovers from frontal passages and under-performing snowstorms. We probably average 2 warning criteria events per winter down here. The real sucky thing about being in SE Michigan is that we aren't in SW Michigan. Grand Rapids is just a better, more thriving place, with a closer proximity to a Midwest summer destination. The east side of the state sucks, there is no real denying that. The dunes, LES, beaches, economy and beauty is on the west side of the state. I live here to make money, but I have no plans hanging around on the weekends. I kinda disagree with this. Spring is cold here until May... especially Lakeshore areas I even had low 40's several times in July. High temps begin to even out with areas south eventually..... normal low temps in Summer remain 55'ish Summer's are a dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Its not as bad as you would think it is.... Two week longer winter and pretty similar fall start time. The difference is that when winter is here, they get snow and we more often than not... get leftovers from frontal passages and under-performing snowstorms. We probably average 2 warning criteria events per winter down here. The real sucky thing about being in SE Michigan is that we aren't in SW Michigan. Grand Rapids is just a better, more thriving place, with a closer proximity to a Midwest summer destination. The east side of the state sucks, there is no real denying that. The dunes, LES, beaches, economy and beauty is on the west side of the state. I live here to make money, but I have no plans hanging around on the weekends. Your view of the east side of MI is odd. I happen to love the sunrise coast. From Port Austin up through Rogers city is beautiful. Not to mention the quality huron national and au sable state forests on the east side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Not going to start complaining until mid month if it hasn't snowed at least 4" by then. It is boring looking a brownish bare ground though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I like my climo other than the infrequency of big snows. The good thing is that I can drive a couple hours to the IN/MI snowbelt if I'm in need of a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I like my climo other than the infrequency of big snows. The good thing is that I can drive a couple hours to the IN/MI snowbelt if I'm in need of a fix. How far do you have to go to see snow from a typical LES with a NNW flow in Indiana? I know with a N wind Lafayette can pick up accumulation too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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