Coach McGuirk Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 40 degrees. First light graupel/flurries of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 It's life in La Nada/La Nina. La Nada's are interesting. Prior to 1981-1982, most of the year since 1950 produced over 20 inches of snow. Since then, the last 7 have been total duds. A statistician would say that's a fluke and not statistically significant. Most of us would worry it's because of some climate oscillation and would keep us from going heavier than normal for snow this winter. I have no clue which is right but since around 1987, big snow years have been real hard to come by. No snow or flurries in mby today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 So exactly how close can they park that bird? lol 600-700ft, from the looks of it http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/KDCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I don't think it's the jets as much as the relativity to the water and that dark gray (gravel?) beneath the instruments. But, that's our DCA.. Always above what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 So exactly how close can they park that bird? lol Ironically, they dont park any jets near there at all. It is an active runway for Air Wisconsin and their CRJ 200 jets and other assorted commuter type aircraft. Jets have no impact at all on the reading there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Ironically, they dont park any jets near there at all. It is an active runway for Air Wisconsin and their CRJ 200 jets and other assorted commuter type aircraft. Jets have no impact at all on the reading there. Yeah, I figured, but it did sound good. I'll agree on the 'dark gray 'gravel' material, that really can't help IMO even with some grass showing up per TJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 La Nada's are interesting. Prior to 1981-1982, most of the year since 1950 produced over 20 inches of snow. Since then, the last 7 have been total duds. A statistician would say that's a fluke and not statistically significant. Most of us would worry it's because of some climate oscillation and would keep us from going heavier than normal for snow this winter. I have no clue which is right but since around 1987, big snow years have been real hard to come by. No snow or flurries in mby today. you know my theory has always been whether they still have nina filth on them...those tend to be warm with less snow....the ones in warmer enso periods tend to be colder and/or snowier...this winter is slightly tougher because the nina was 2 years ago and there was some ENSO warming last fall.... neutrals were generally colder and/or snowier in the 60s and late 70s/early 80s because of the warm enso regimes, - the middle of nino sandwiches..partly because of residual southern streams neutrals since 1988 are a mixed bag....though what most would consider the 3 best if you take into account the whole region snow and cold temps were 92-94 and 03-04 which were in/after warm periods...the others pretty much sucked, though 1989 had the cold start... since 1988...the cold and somewhat wintry 3 - nino sandwiches the crappy five - Nina hangovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 since we can't count on nino after nino, we really need 2-3 neutrals sandwiched between ninos like the 60's, late 70s/early 80s, 92-94, 03-04 if we can do that...get something like nino neutral neutral nino we will probably get a string of cold and mostly snowy winters..we can't keep flipping to nina if we want back to back good winters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Stop telling us it's not going to snow....we get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Stop telling us it's not going to snow....we get it It just takes one big storm! The universe is chaotic!...You can't predict the weather! I actually think this winter was the hardest outlook I have done...I don't have a ton of confidence...though it would shock me if we are cold and snowy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Yeah, I figured, but it did sound good. I'll agree on the 'dark gray 'gravel' material, that really can't help IMO even with some grass showing up per TJ. DCA is an urban heat island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It just takes one big storm! The universe is chaotic!...You can't predict the weather! I actually think this winter was the hardest outlook I have done...I don't have a ton of confidence...though it would shock me if we are cold and snowy Your post above about the crappy 5 analogs is a very disturbing slap in the face. That type of evidence usually won't be denied. By this time next year you will most likely have to change it to the crappy 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 12z GFS MOS gets temps near 70F on Sunday-Monday ahead of the big Plains storm. Yes! So much fun. Warm, some precip, a cold front. Variety! Who needs snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bari Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yes! So much fun. Warm, some precip, a cold front. Variety! Who needs snow? eh, your right. but I did see some rain drops with some imbedded snow globs, so I'm counting that as seeing something winter related here in College Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 0Z GFS long range is a weenie dream. After 144 850's pretty much stay below freezing and the is a good block north of Maine. Clipper hit at end of run and it is vodka cold. Hoping this trend continues. I been thinking the start of December might be rocking for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 34/15 at DCA at midnight... should hit below freezing tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Low of 26 and sitting at 29 currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 BWI reported its first trace of snow for the winter yesterday woooohooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 32 at DCA at 12:52a and above for every hourly report after. Meanwhile, BWI has been below freezing since before 10p and made it down to 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hitting lows of the season right now. Didn't fall much since midnight, though. 28.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCWX Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Got down to a nice 24.2. Coldest night of the year so far. It had reached 32 at 5:11pm last night so and is still 24 now. If anything plant wise was still alive I doubt it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 28.2 here at the house. Nice sunrise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EABiker Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 A few flurries falling here in Frederick; first seen this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 BWI reported its first trace of snow for the winter yesterday woooohooo I woke up this morning to flurries and flakes on the car. It's a really nice November morning out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Sunrise through the trees this morning. Perfect morning outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 First dusting courtesy of fake snow in Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 First dusting courtesy of fake snow in Westminster. Surprised someone didn't report an inch with 5 inch drifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Sunrise through the trees this morning. Perfect morning outside. _DSC9649-Edit.jpg Awesome picture, snowfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Snowflakes for Thanksgiving? Just looking at the GFS. I don't take forecasts that far ahead very seriously, but at least for now it looks as if it might be nippy for the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.J Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 A few flurries falling here in Frederick; first seen this season. Sitting at 30 this morning, and was woken up by the girls letting us know that they were seeing snow! Got up and yep a few stray flakes were falling. Beautiful picture snowfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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