Typhoon Tip Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 We seem to have a nice orderly arrangement in events for the next 7 days as we enter a pretty remarkable combination of +PNA/-NAO. In that teleconnector suggested paradigm, we don't tend to roll up big mid level centers very far/too successfully west of New England's longitude as quite obviously, blocking along and above the ~50th parallel prevents that from happening. Thus, though not a certainty, some southerly track adjustment to the deeper layer vortex from the 25th to the 26th is plausible, and may parlay into more coastal commitment out toward the 27th. I am better than 50/50 confident it will evolve that way. That would be a better correlation to climatology for a -2SD and falling NAO regime, particularly then assisted by a steeply sloped, rising PNA, which is multiple guidance type situating an idealized +PNAP construct from the Pacific to the west Atlantic. The storm track just does not support a GGEM position - as an example. I have noticed that that last 3 cycles of the oper. GFS has shifted more vort max/carving a bit more east nearing the MA around D6.5, so it may be heading in that corrective direction. With more Miller B commitment on this next system of interest, this could provide a bit more a classic Nor'easter for the upper MA to SNE, and Maine. It will be a fascinating system to watch. The +PNA and -NAO are hugely arguing for more coastal commitment, where the current operational runs "fight" that correlation to varying degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Most folks are calling for a Rainer with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Euro was damn well near snow for the interior north of the pike...CNE looked pretty good. It def could trend a bit more. I'm not convinced for my area yet, but I'd feel pretty good just to the north and be hopeful south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 12z gfs looked like slush/slop at best for central Maine, and 1.5"+ RA at worst. Plenty of time to cjange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Lol...Euro gives a paste bomb now to ORH-AFN...at least through 150h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Euro almost looks december 1992ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Here we see some commitment to a Miller B re-dev. along the SE Coast. But, we have a clear "blocky" vibe in the mid level structure, and a lower troposphere impressive polar high parked N of Maine, damming down the interior MA. This is the 120 op. Euro.. I suspect that strong vortex gets to about N IN or S MI, and then stalls, and as the Miller B takes over, it starts to fill as cyclogen feedback then assists in carving the mid levels Eward under the burgeoning -NAO. This should provide with a duration event regardless of P-type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 what a nutty evolution. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Oh, sorry Will - I guess you beat me to it.... I am mind's eyeing as I only have the freebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Powderfreak just deleted his account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Wow, just saw the 144 - that's about as close to a historic scenario as you can be, without actually being there. This could certainly evolve into the big signal offered by the boom onset +PNA with on-going -NAO as discussed in Will's other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Still all rain south of pike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Still all rain south of pike? No, you go over to heavy wet paste too...though you deal with some marginal ML temps for a time. For ORH hills and Monads though it is 12"+ of blue cement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Still all rain south of pike? it's such a bizarre set-up...it's not worth worrying about at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 No, you go over to heavy wet paste too...though you deal with some marginal ML temps for a time. For ORH hills and Monads though it is 12"+ of blue cement.Well better than before lol. Now I can at least rest assured of deep pack into Morch with whatever we get this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 man next week could be really interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 it's such a bizarre set-up...it's not worth worrying about at all. It has a lot fo similarities to Dec '92...that storm is like the Holy Grail around here so I never actually try to directly make an anlog like that, but the whole way it cuts off and gets compressed from the north a bit by the downstream pseudo block. It gives NNE like no precip...like Dec '92. High is in similar spot. both the high and low aren't nearly as strong though as '92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 people are going to be cryin for their mamma's when this pattern has finally released it's grip on the east. and yes please on day 8-10. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 people are going to be cryin for their mamma's when this pattern has finally released it's grip on the east. and yes please on day 8-10. LOL. Ginx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ginx? lol. if someone doesn't get something big it'll be just pure bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 CNE cancel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 people are going to be cryin for their mamma's when this pattern has finally released it's grip on the east. and yes please on day 8-10. LOL. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Euro is surprisingly cold day 2/28-3-whatever. Almost the opposite of Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 CNE cancel? On the Euro...yes. Well not really CNE, more NNE. Anywhere from CON southward still does ok in CNE. But that would be a noose tying run for Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Blocks trend south not north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Euro is surprisingly cold day 2/28-3-whatever. Almost the opposite of Sunday. one of those ripping ene winds in late Feb over a cold dome that produce biggies. I will not throw out analogs because you hate that but Jeffafa would like the one I am thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 On the Euro...yes. Well not really CNE, more NNE. Anywhere from CON southward still does ok in CNE. But that would be a noose tying run for Plymouth.Noose is ready. The snow gods hate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Noose is ready. The snow gods hate me. If they hated you, then they must have looked at me as Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Man, the Euro is just pure winter fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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