Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I figured I'd whip up a chart of the top 10 most and least snowiest seasons for sites that I had available long standing data for. And for those who will be eventually rooting for a snow futility record for your location, here's the numbers to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Toronto got all kinds of snow in the mid to late 1800s lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Toronto got all kinds of snow in the mid to late 1800s lol WOW no kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Toronto got all kinds of snow in the mid to late 1800s lol lol, yeah. I got the data from Mike...it's the city site. Almost seems a bit too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The totals on the high side are more shocking. Unreal amounts of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 As always, good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 As always, AWESOME job. True eye candy for stats buffs like me. Another thread I will be bookmarking Detroit, Cleveland, and Grand Rapids FTW!!!! All 3 sites have 4 of their 10 snowiest winters in the 2000s (and 0 in the top 10 least snowy). Ive said it many many times recently, these have been special times lately for this region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 As always, AWESOME job. True eye candy for stats buffs like me. Another thread I will be bookmarking Detroit, Cleveland, and Grand Rapids FTW!!!! All 3 sites have 4 of their 10 snowiest winters in the 2000s (and 0 in the top 10 least snowy). Ive said it many many times recently, these have been special times lately for this region. How about Green Bay? Their 3rd, 4th and 5th snowiest seasons have all been in the last five years. This year clearly won't be one of them, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I had no idea our two worst were b2b, what an awful stretch that must have been. I also find peoria's max amounts to be real low in comparison to Chicago and Stl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 I had no idea our two worst were b2b, what an awful stretch that must have been. I also find peoria's max amounts to be real low in comparison to Chicago and Stl. The 1920's (and 30's and 40's) were overall pretty awful. Yeah Peoria looks like they have a lowball thing going. Janet has questioned their amounts (of recent vintage) for the longest time it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Toronto got all kinds of snow in the mid to late 1800s lol b4 they understood you divide by 2, not multiply by 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The totals on the high side are more shocking. Unreal amounts of snow. Especially Green Bay's #1 highest because I don't think they get any LES. Other shocker. Clev's #1 lowest at 8.8" for a LES location! Also Detroit's top ten for the most part beats Chicago's. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Detroit with a lot of stinkers in the teens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Especially Green Bay's #1 highest because I don't think they get any LES. Other shocker. Clev's #1 lowest at 8.8" for a LES location! Also Detroit's top ten for the most part beats Chicago's. Huh? That is crazy for a LES location, but its believable. 1918-19 was disaster. As you see Detroit (15.2") ranks 4th least snowy that year, but a big part of that was 8" in March (5.8" storm on Mar 8/9). That storm probably tracked west of Cleveland giving them all rain (even Detroit turned to rain, snow depth went from 5" on Mar 9th to 2" on Mar 10th). Curious why it surprises you about Detroit beating Chicago? Detroit averages I believe about 6" more than Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Detroit with a lot of stinkers in the teens... Yup, exactly 10 winters with less than 20 inches of snow, but it hasnt happened since 1968-69. Looking at them chronologically, 6 of them fell in the two-decade span from the late 1940s to late 1960s. Ouch. 1881-82 1889-90 1918-19 1936-37 1948-49 1952-53 1957-58 1960-61 1965-66 1968-69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Heres a closer look at Detroits top 10 snowy/least snowy winters. TOP 10 MOST SNOWY ......................Snow.....1"+ snwcvr days...Peak Depth...Biggest storm 01.) 1880-81.......93.6"............M................M............12.5" - Jan 31/Feb 1 02.) 1925-26.......78.0"..........70 days............9"...........8.9" - Feb 12/13 03.) 1981-82.......74.0"..........89 days..........18".........11.8" - Jan 30/31 04.) 2007-08.......71.7"..........63 days............9"...........9.0" - Dec 15/16 05.) 1899-00.......69.1"............M.................26".........16.1" - Mar 4/5 06.) 2010-11.......69.1"..........80 days..........16".........10.3" - Feb 1/2 07.) 1907-08.......67.2"..........63 days..........15".........12.6" - Feb 19 08.) 1929-30.......66.5"..........79 days..........14".........13.8" - Dec 18/19 09.) 2008-09.......65.7"..........60 days..........14"...........7.9" - Dec 19 10.) 2004-05.......63.8"..........62 days..........12".........12.2" - Jan 22 TOP 10 LEAST SNOWY ......................Snow.....1"+ snwcvr days...Peak Depth...Biggest storm 01.) 1936-37.......12.9".........10 days.............3"............3.5" - Jan 22 02.) 1881-82.......13.2".............M..................M.............2.6" - Jan 25 03.) 1948-49.......13.7".........17 days.............4"............2.8" - Jan 26 04.) 1918-19.......15.2".........12 days.............5"............5.8" - Mar 8/9 05.) 1965-66.......15.4".........33 days.............4"............3.0" - Jan 22/23 06.) 1889-90.......15.8".............M..................4"............5.0" - Mar 28 07.) 1952-53.......16.6".........16 days.............2"............3.2" - Jan 11 08.) 1968-69.......17.1".........28 days.............5"............3.3" - Jan 6 09.) 1957-58.......18.0".........32 days.............3"............2.1" - Feb 14-16 10.) 1960-61.......18.0".........35 days.............3"............3.0" - Apr 16/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 40.7 for detroit and 37.3 for chicago all time... Prob more fair to compare chicago to wyandotte and south down to the border than compare them with detroit. Warm lake in fall and early winter doesn't do chicago any favors either.. Yeah they get lake enhancement and LES on occasion but detroit can also nickel and dime streamers from the west and even some from the other direction so it evens out some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 40.7 for detroit and 37.3 for chicago all time... Prob more fair to compare chicago to wyandotte and south down to the border than compare them with detroit. Warm lake in fall and early winter doesn't do chicago any favors either.. Yeah they get lake enhancement and LES on occasion but detroit can also nickel and dime streamers from the west and even some from the other direction so it evens out some. wasnt sure bout chicagos longterm avg...more or less we have very similar climates. Speaking of longterm avg, heres a funny stat. Running 4-year average at the conclusion of last winter was 62.6" at DTW (250.2" the last 4 winters). If not one single flake of snow fell in 2011-12 AND 2012-13, the running 6-year average in spring of 2013 would still have been 41.7" (250 / 6), still an inch above longterm avg. Obviously the chance of that happening is 0 as 6.7" has already fallen this season, and hell, Ill say it...chances of it EVER happening are 0. And I STILL feel in the end this will be an above normal season here. But karma AND climo says we REALLY should have a sub-40" winter or three quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Interesting to note that a top 10 and a bottom 10 winter in Indianapolis seemed to go hand in hand… 1892-93 | 40.0” 1893-94 | 9.7” 1895-96 | 46.8” 1981-82 | 58.2” 1982-83 | 7.1” 1972-73 | 7.9” 1973-74 | 44.8” 1977-78 | 57.9” 1978-79 | 38.4” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Interesting to note that a top 10 and a bottom 10 winter in Indianapolis seemed to go hand in hand… 1892-93 | 40.0” 1893-94 | 9.7” 1895-96 | 46.8” 1981-82 | 58.2” 1982-83 | 7.1” 1972-73 | 7.9” 1973-74 | 44.8” 1977-78 | 57.9” 1978-79 | 38.4” Good catch Jim. Roller coaster type stretches. But also shows the high volatility of winters in central Indiana. Not that there isn't a lot of 20-25" winters...but the extremes are certainly there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 With the first half of January looking more and more likely to pass snowless, odd of Chicago reaching top 10 least snowy status are looking good. EDIT: Given the less than rosey long range of the 12z Euro, good chance we ride into february with little to no snow. Going to need nearly 20 inches in a month or so just to avoid a top 10 low finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 With the first half of January looking more and more likely to pass snowless, odd of Chicago reaching top 10 least snowy status are looking good. EDIT: Given the less than rosey long range of the 12z Euro, good chance we ride into february with little to no snow. Going to need nearly 20 inches in a month or so just to avoid a top 10 low finish. Bad edit (to the bolded specifically) or Euro fail. ...THE CHICAGO-OHARE IL CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR JANUARY 20 2012... SNOWFALL (IN) YESTERDAY 5.4 MONTH TO DATE 11.2 SINCE DEC 1 12.9 SINCE JUL 1 12.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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