84 hour NAM... American models are still warm for snow in NNE except Vim Toot area. Good layer of sleet and ZR though south/under the H85 0C line. coming closer to some of those EURO and GGEM runs... that vort digs pretty far south and comes out well south of SNE. There's only so far north that low can go with the vorticity evolving as the models have it.