snowman21 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 For many of us the climatological peak occurs this week, and thus begins the descent towards winter. Here are some peak dates across New England... --- HIGHEST --- ID ST NAME ELEV PEAK MEAN MAX MIN --- -- ------------------------------- ---- ------ ---- --- --- HIE NH WHITEFIELD MT WASHINGTON AP 1074 JUL 11 65.1 79 52 BML NH BERLIN MUNI AP 1158 JUL 14 64.8 79 51 MLT ME MILLINOCKET FAA AP 407 JUL 16 68.4 79 58 1V4 VT SAINT JOHNSBURY 700 JUL 16 70.3 82 59 VSF VT SPRINGFIELD HARTNESS AP 578 JUL 16 69.3 81 57 MPV VT MONTPELIER AP 1126 JUL 17 67.4 79 56 DAW NH ROCHESTER SKYHAVEN AP 323 JUL 18 70.4 82 59 BTV VT BURLINGTON WSO AP 330 JUL 18 70.9 81 61 MVL VT MORRISVILLE STOWE STATE AP 732 JUL 18 68.1 80 56 MMK CT MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNI AP 103 JUL 19 72.9 84 62 AQW MA NORTH ADAMS 652 JUL 19 69.3 81 58 ORE MA ORANGE MUNI AP 555 JUL 19 69.9 82 58 OWD MA NORWOOD MEM AP 50 JUL 19 71.1 83 59 IZG ME FRYEBURG E SLOPES AP 445 JUL 19 68.7 81 56 DDH VT BENNINGTON MORSE ST AP 826 JUL 19 68.5 80 57 IJD CT WILLIMANTIC WINDHAM AP 247 JUL 20 72.0 83 62 BDL CT HARTFORD 190 JUL 21 74.0 85 63 DXR CT DANBURY MUNI AP 457 JUL 21 71.8 82 61 HFD CT HARTFORD BRAINARD FLD 20 JUL 21 74.5 84 65 BVY MA BEVERLY MUNI AP 108 JUL 21 70.8 80 61 FIT MA FITCHBURG MUNI AP 348 JUL 21 72.7 84 62 LWM MA LAWRENCE MUNI AP 149 JUL 21 72.2 82 62 PYM MA PLYMOUTH MUNI AP 149 JUL 21 71.5 82 62 TAN MA TAUNTON MUNI AP 43 JUL 21 72.1 83 61 FVE ME FRENCHVILLE AROOSTOOK AP 988 JUL 21 65.0 75 56 HUL ME HOULTON AP 476 JUL 21 66.2 78 54 AFN NH JAFFREY 1080 JUL 21 68.8 79 58 MWN NH MT WASHINGTON 6267 JUL 21 49.3 54 44 CAR ME CARIBOU WFO 624 JUL 22 66.0 76 56 MHT NH MANCHESTER AP 225 JUL 22 73.0 83 63 UUU RI NEWPORT STATE AP 172 JUL 22 72.0 80 64 BED MA BEDFORD HANSCOM FLD 133 JUL 23 73.5 84 63 BOS MA BOSTON 12 JUL 23 73.9 82 66 CQX MA CHATHAM MUNI AP 68 JUL 23 71.7 79 64 MQE MA BLUE HILL 625 JUL 23 72.4 81 63 ORH MA WORCESTER 1000 JUL 23 70.7 79 62 GNR ME GREENVILLE 1029 JUL 23 66.5 76 58 IWI ME WISCASSET AP 68 JUL 23 67.8 78 57 CON NH CONCORD ASOS 346 JUL 23 70.4 83 58 EWB MA NEW BEDFORD MUNI AP 80 JUL 24 71.4 81 62 BGR ME BANGOR AP 148 JUL 24 69.1 80 58 PVD RI PROVIDENCE 60 JUL 24 74.0 83 65 BDR CT BRIDGEPORT SIKORSKY AP 5 JUL 25 74.9 83 67 NZW MA SOUTH WEYMOUTH NAS 157 JUL 25 75.1 86 64 PSF MA PITTSFIELD WB AP JUL 25 67.8 79 57 AUG ME AUGUSTA FAA AP 350 JUL 25 70.1 80 60 PWM ME PORTLAND JETPORT 45 JUL 25 69.6 79 60 LEB NH LEBANON MUNI AP 598 JUL 25 70.8 83 59 WST RI WESTERLY STATE AP 81 JUL 25 71.3 80 63 HVN CT NEW HAVEN WB AP 6 JUL 26 74.6 83 67 NHZ ME BRUNSWICK 70 JUL 26 69.7 80 59 BAF MA WESTFIELD 2 NE AP 262 JUL 27 71.3 83 60 HYA MA HYANNIS BARNSTABLE MUNI AP 55 JUL 27 72.3 81 64 GYX ME GRAY 378 JUL 27 69.8 80 60 ACK MA NANTUCKET FAA AP 43 JUL 28 69.6 76 63 CHH MA CHATHAM 40 JUL 28 69.6 76 63 BID RI BLOCK ISLAND STATE AP 110 JUL 28 70.8 78 63 MVY MA VINEYARD HAVEN AP 68 JUL 29 70.2 80 61 GON CT GROTON NEW LONDON AP 10 JUL 30 70.9 79 63 EPO ME EASTPORT 85 AUG 2 65.0 75 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm guessing I am close to Jaffrey's. Just a few miles north and similar el... Did you put that together yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm guessing I am close to Jaffrey's. Just a few miles north and similar el... Did you put that together yourself? Oops can't believe I forgot to include Mass! Edited to include those stations as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ugh how depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Darkness...blissful darkness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ugh how depressing Oh please..think of all the weenie live shots you can do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Oh please..think of all the weenie live shots you can do! After this past winter I'm content with a SNE winter of discontent and enough snow in VT for good skiing. cweat and I will have a field day on here if we saw a 99-00 winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 After this past winter I'm content with a SNE winter of discontent and enough snow in VT for good skiing. cweat and I will have a field day on here if we saw a 99-00 winter LOL, what a downer you are. It would be World War III on here, if that happened. I can see Messenger and Kevin now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Darkness...blissful darkness... Yep something to look forward to as we're blistering in 95 degree heat at the end of the week. I don't mind summer, for about the first month, but I wouldn't mind if we could go from the Fourth of July to Labor Day. That two month period is pretty boring weather-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 LOL, what a downer you are. It would be World War III on here, if that happened. I can see Messenger and Kevin now. We managed '06-'07 in relatively decent manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Thank god; by the time I return home from the conference, the descent into winter will have commenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 We managed '06-'07 in relatively decent manner. Yea, but we had like 1\4 of the amount of posters that we do now......a repeat of that would be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ugh how depressing Only 5 months away from 4pm sunsets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Definitely do not look forward to the darkness. Does anyone really look forward to that? I love long summer evenings. Of course, I do look forward to winter!! The darkness is just an unfortunate side-effect IMO lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I actually look forward to darkness.. thats when hybernation mode sets it.. the changing of the seasons is a perfect timeframe.. as as I get sick of summer were going to the descent towards winter... vice versa.. it's really perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yea, but we had like 1\4 of the amount of posters that we do now......a repeat of that would be a mess. Messenger would be tracking some renegade OES squall 200 miles to his southeast, and Kevin would just be praying that dews don't get above 40...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I always start a count down to July 23rd (around my climo peak) after the sun reaches it's peak in June...something to look forward to once we get past the heat of summer. What's interesting is that while the peak occurs on the 23rd, the rounded temperatures are the same from early in the month to later in the month. Bottom line is that we're reaching the summit guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yep something to look forward to as we're blistering in 95 degree heat at the end of the week. I don't mind summer, for about the first month, but I wouldn't mind if we could go from the Fourth of July to Labor Day. That two month period is pretty boring weather-wise. I love autumn and the rapid loss of daylight. I should move north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 For many of us the climatological peak occurs this week, and thus begins the descent towards winter. Here are some peak dates across New England... Are those figures based on 1981-2010? I've massaged my data from Farmington, Maine for 1981-2010 and it's slightly odd compared to most "top of summer" curves I've seen, and offers more evidence that 30 yr is too short a period. Using a 15-day smoothing, the mean temp climbs above 66.8 today (7/20) and remains there thru 8/4, a 16-day period with its peak at 69.07 on 7/29. With a 7-day smoothing the avg temp climbs to 67.15 on 7/20, slides to 66.63 a few days later, then goes back up to 67.34 on 8/2. Taking each day individually, the warmest is 8/5 at 68.58, and 8/4-5 are the only two days with the mean max above 80. Using all the data back thru 1893 (with 15-day smooth), the curve is more "normal", with the avg climbings above 68.0 on 7/10 and remaining there thru 7/26, peaking at 68.65 on 7/19. (Prior to the mid 1950s, recorded summer temps were 2-3F warmer than since then and 13 of Farmington's 14 triple-digit days are 1944 or earlier, 12 are 1911 or earlier. I'm convinced that the measurement location was different then, probably more in-town than where it's been during the past +/-55 yr.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Are those figures based on 1981-2010? I've massaged my data from Farmington, Maine for 1981-2010 and it's slightly odd compared to most "top of summer" curves I've seen, and offers more evidence that 30 yr is too short a period. Using a 15-day smoothing, the mean temp climbs above 66.8 today (7/20) and remains there thru 8/4, a 16-day period with its peak at 69.07 on 7/29. With a 7-day smoothing the avg temp climbs to 67.15 on 7/20, slides to 66.63 a few days later, then goes back up to 67.34 on 8/2. Taking each day individually, the warmest is 8/5 at 68.58, and 8/4-5 are the only two days with the mean max above 80. Using all the data back thru 1893 (with 15-day smooth), the curve is more "normal", with the avg climbings above 68.0 on 7/10 and remaining there thru 7/26, peaking at 68.65 on 7/19. (Prior to the mid 1950s, recorded summer temps were 2-3F warmer than since then and 13 of Farmington's 14 triple-digit days are 1944 or earlier, 12 are 1911 or earlier. I'm convinced that the measurement location was different then, probably more in-town than where it's been during the past +/-55 yr.) Guess I should have included a disclaimer, but the peak date is the midpoint of the highest daily mean temperature from the 1981-2010 normals. Most stations sit at their peak daily mean temperature for at least a few days, so the peak date as I have it is the mid-point of those days assuming the temperature curve is a nice sinusoid where the true peak average could only occur on one day of the year. I really made the thread for fun and not for any real scientific purpose since the dates themselves are somewhat arbitrary (due to rounding, method of normals computation, etc.) and prone to be +/- a week in either direction. The only noticeable pattern was that the coastal stations seem to reach their peak temp and hang on to it for much longer thus pushing their peak dates later into July/early August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Only 5 months away from 4pm sunsets. There's one point in December when the sun sets on the ski resort around 11am... that's the time it disappears behind the mountain and then you're in the shadows all afternoon. That's the most depressing time of year for me even with all the snowfall... its hard to combat the feeling of only seeing the sun on the eastern side of the Spine in mid to late morning. Of course, the western slopes of the mountain gets to bask in the sunlight all afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 For many of us the climatological peak occurs this week, and thus begins the descent towards winter. Here are some peak dates across New England... --- HIGHEST --- ID ST NAME ELEV PEAK MEAN MAX MIN --- -- ------------------------------- ---- ------ ---- --- --- MPV VT MONTPELIER AP 1126 JUL 17 67.4 79 56 BTV VT BURLINGTON WSO AP 330 JUL 18 70.9 81 61 MVL VT MORRISVILLE STOWE STATE AP 732 JUL 18 68.1 80 56 There's one point in December when the sun sets on the ski resort around 11am... that's the time it disappears behind the mountain and then you're in the shadows all afternoon. That's the most depressing time of year for me even with all the snowfall... its hard to combat the feeling of only seeing the sun on the eastern side of the Spine in mid to late morning. Of course, the western slopes of the mountain gets to bask in the sunlight all afternoon. That’s pretty cool information about the climatological peaks; I had no idea that there was so much difference with latitude etc., nor did I know that we were already past our peak up here. I had mentally targeted July 21st, figuring our peak would be around there representing a one-month lag period past the solstice. Tuesday was actually the first day I noticed what seemed like a shortening of the day; I was driving toward the sun a bit after 6:00 A.M. and it seemed surprisingly low. Checking the sunrise table, it looks like it is now rising about 20 minutes later than a month ago, which is apparently enough that I noticed it. PF – agreed about that potentially depressing December darkness, but big upsides are that the skiing can be so damn good at that time of year as long as Mother Nature has put down enough base; the powder can stay light and dry with so little sun to mess with it, and the whole December/holiday feel is great because everyone is so jazzed for snow. There are so many good things to keep the depression away. I’m definitely a fan of huge snows in November and December to set up the slopes during that period. It seemed like we had an unusually high concentration of stinker solstice/holiday periods for skiing in recent years, but last year sort of broke that trend. My weather records indicate that our snowfall at the house was basically average at that point of the ‘10-‘11 season, and although so much of it was fluff with the southern trend for synoptic storms starting up, somehow the skiing was really good. I see in my ski log that we had 7 outings during that Dec 23 – Jan 1 holiday stretch, so it must have been pretty good to get us out that much. Even by December 19th the powder skiing was already awesome, so depression had no chance. As good as things were, imagine how they would have gone off if we'd been hit by that Boxing Day storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Bump for 2012....crossing the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Bump for 2012....crossing the hump. I remember this. Closing in on the peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Daylight loss is over 2 minutes per day by the 29th I love snow and cold but hate the long dark nights. Can't have one without the other though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I noticed today for the first time it was still pretty dark at 5:00am during my morning run. Another 2-3 weeks and it'll be time to put the reflective vest on. I love when it gets dark early at night, but would like it to get light early at 4:45 all year like it has the last month or 2, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Losing 4.5 minutes of daylight per day in Anchorage now. Visible light under 21 hours now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Losing 4.5 minutes of daylight per day in Anchorage now. Visible light under 21 hours now How long are you there? Did you play golf at 2AM or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 How long are you there? Did you play golf at 2AM or anything? Just one more week. I can't NOT do something when it's light out, so I have gone for a lot of midnight runs. We also did a night hike during the solstice. Pretty amazing. Got back from Denali last night a little after 2am. Around that time, the northeast sky is starting to brighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Looks like PSF doesn't peak until 7/25 at 79° F for a daily max. Can't wait to begin the descent into fall. I love the cool, crisp nights of fall and the turning of the leaves even if it does mean sacrificing daylight. I would imagine the leaves will drop early this after a rather dull fall foliage because of the dry conditions. Last year was too wet and many of the maples caught some blight and defoliated without ever turning color. This year the drought will likely be a detriment to our foliage by muting the colors some. Regardless, I still think it'll be better than last year since the fungus on the leaves caused the leaves to go from green to brown whereas even with drought conditions we should still see some color. Obviously if we can get some rain soon, it may help matters. Hopefully, I'll pull of a 100"+ winter this year (as with others in elevated interior SNE). '93-'94, '95-'96, '02-'03, '10-'11 were all 100"+ years here. I think '00-'01 may have been but I'm not sure. If it wasn't, it was close. I'll have to go hunt down some records. Basically, it winds up about being 1 in 5 or 6 winters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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