Srain Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Memories of the (1953) Waco, TX tornado come to mind as well. Thoughts continue for JoMo and all those in the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I was on a small commercial flight about 30 miles north of Joplin when everything was going down last evening... worst turbulence I've ever experienced, though it was probably only high-end moderate/low-end severe. The flight attendants were starting to look at each other and stuff was starting to bounce around, then we were through it. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone there... terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 So, what's the expectation Re: intensity-- EF4? A few of the damage pics have an EF4 look to them, with the homes really flattened and the trees stripped completely down to sticks. It definitely looks worse than EF3 to me in some places. Looks EF5 to me... I helped clean up after an EF4 last year and it wasn't even close to as bad as the images I've seen from this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Looks EF5 to me... I helped clean up after an EF4 last year and it wasn't even close to as bad as the images I've seen from this one. Hmmm. Can you share the images that look EF5 to you? Curious to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hmmm. Can you share the images that look EF5 to you? Curious to see! This. I haven't seen anything indicative of an EF-5 yet... should be able to get some quick shots in this morning before the next storm rolls through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hmmm. Can you share the images that look EF5 to you? Curious to see! Well, this for one. This tornado just tossed the vehicles around like they were Matchbox cars and flattened them like pancakes... didn't see anything like this last year with the EF4. This looks more like the F5 damage to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 This. I haven't seen anything indicative of an EF-5 yet... should be able to get some quick shots in this morning before the next storm rolls through. Yeah. I'm not denying it was an EF5-- I just haven't seen personally seen evidence of that. I would say it was most certainly at least an EF4, as per my comments above-- I've seen a few photos that look like hearty proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well, this for one. This tornado just tossed the vehicles around like they were Matchbox cars and flattened them like pancakes... didn't see anything like this last year with the EF4. This looks more like the F5 damage to me. It may end up being an EF5, but I don't think it would be based on this sort of evidence. Lesser tornadoes can really toss vehicles, which are relatively light for their size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Any word on JoMo? Anybody on the board close to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Sounds like, anecdotally, this one caught a lot of folks there off guard. Makes sense, Sunday night, people maybe less likely to be near a TV or the internet, family stuff going on, just not clued in to the approaching danger. Sounded like that from at least a few of the interviews I caught this morning while flipping around the dial. Saw one mention that this cell kind of "blew up" from not much to that over a short time period. If so, maybe that added to the surprise factor. Have not had a chance to go back and look at the maps of it as it developed yet and god knows how reliable the reports are on the major news stations, but that was some of the soundbites I caught. On one of the networks (TWC?) Al Roker was at the hospital site and was saying he talked to a nurse who was on the 6th floor. They had been told a twister might be there in 15-20 minutes and it arrived in less than 5 minutes. Seemed to surprise people. Awful awful scenes. Can't believe this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Any word on JoMo? Anybody on the board close to him? Well apparently nothing so far..but in the thread in the Central Forum they tracked down where his house is(by using photos he had taken of his neighborhood in a snowstorm and then using google earth, etc.), and located the exact house apparently and it was right in the path of the tornado. His last post was rather chilling. Hope he and his loved ones are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 They said they had a 20 minute warning... and in that part of the country it's normally around 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 X rays from St. John's hospital found 70 miles away as per CNN article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 JoMo's posts from yesterday, up until the storm hit. The good news is that they had warning-- he heard sirens: Giant clusterf*k of storms in SE KS with more developing around that cell. Constant rolling thunder. Not seeing all that strong of a couplet. Did witness some mammatus despite the low clouds. nd there go the sirens, rotation just NW of here. Pitch black out, couplet nearly on me... Joplin, MO Note: The timestamps are Pacific time, so add 2 hours for local (Central) time. JoMO, I hope all is OK for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 JoMo's posts from yesterday, up until the storm hit. The good news is that they had warning-- he heard sirens: Note: The timestamps are Pacific time, so add 2 hours for local (Central) time. JoMO, I hope all is OK for you! timestamps are not pacific....at least on my computer 515ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 timestamps are not pacific....at least on my computer 515ish they should be different based on timezone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Based on that video, my guess is that JoMo's house survived intact. (Edited to remove street names. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oh, cool-- I guess the times are dynamically generated, even when quoted-- so disregard my comment. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='HurricaneJosh' timestamp='1306153442' post='704301' Re: the hospital... It's beaten up, but the actual structure looks to be intact, based on the images I've seen. Yup-- I saw the photos of the structure. I meant that perhaps in a hospital, you have people who cannot easily move out of a room (to get them away from windows, flying debris, etc.) all concentrated in one building... kind of like the heart wrenching stories we read after Katrina about the doctors and nurses struggling with moving some of their patients up to higher levels when the storm surge came in. But of course, that was just a guess I threw out there-- probably not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 this may be rogers hills chase tour..several have British accents they drive by the lowes store that got hit afterwards at 1:16 they seem to be driving south of Range line road..much of the area in the beginning of the video got destroyed then(which wold be north of lowes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yup-- I saw the photos of the structure. I meant that perhaps in a hospital, you have people who cannot easily move out of a room (to get them away from windows, flying debris, etc.) all concentrated in one building... kind of like the heart wrenching stories we read after Katrina about the doctors and nurses struggling with moving some of their patients up to higher levels when the storm surge came in. But of course, that was just a guess I threw out there-- probably not correct. Also reminds me of the hospital in Minamisanriku and the tsunami-they could not move the patients up fast enough and had to leave them or die with them. I hope that story on TWC about the man being sucked out of a sixth floor window of the hospital is not really true... With 89 fatalities and counting, I wonder if something like a nursing home or a crowded store or something got a really bad hit...kind of the opposite of the Tuscaloosa tornado which missed the university, hospital, etc. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Bad stuff headed their way again. A bowing segment with 60-70 mph winds approaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Bad stuff headed their way again. A bowing segment with 60-70 mph winds approaching. Ugh, that is just not right. Those poor people must be traumatized already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I was not following this right as it happened, and can someone verify if Joplin had just a tornado warning, or if a tornado emergency was issued? I went through the Central Forum thread and do not remember seeing any tornado emergency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I was not following this right as it happened, and can someone verify if Joplin had just a tornado warning, or if a tornado emergency was issued? I went through the Central Forum thread and do not remember seeing any tornado emergency? The cell was warned and sirens were sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 this may be rogers hills chase tour..several have British accents they drive by the lowes store that got hit afterwards at 1:16 they seem to be driving south of Range line road..much of the area in the beginning of the video got destroyed then(which wold be north of lowes) more 00:05 20th street looking west ..large black tornado up the road 00:23 good will 00:26 arbys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterymix Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 X rays from St. John's hospital found 70 miles away as per CNN article Trees de-barked and debris hurled 70+ miles will almost certainly get this monster an F=5. Big problem now is that with severe weather bearing down, the people in that area have few places to seek for shelter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Chasers caught the beginning of the tornado: WARNING: NSFW language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'm just getting up to speed on this. Just devastating news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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