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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
40/70 Benchmark replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
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You also have to consider potential hybrid patterns and what that may look like. I think it's safe to assume that there will be more of a traditional El Nino response than 2023 and even 2015.
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More of the same since the big 2007 shift. So most years making a forecast for a minimum in the 4s has done very well. The exceptions were a little above in 2009, 2013 and 2014. The only years below 4 million sq km were 2012 and 2020. My guess is that we would need a strong dipole pattern like we saw from 2007-2012 to challenge the 2012 record. 2020 came the closest but quickly fell behind during the early August period which had the big storm back in 2012. I suppose the other possibility is that we get a really warm Arctic winter into spring some day that allows us to surpass the 2012 with a less extreme summer. But that hasn’t been the case so far as all these weak dipole summers since 2013 have made the 2012 minimum to challenging to pass. The volume remains so low with the loss of older sea ice that even a very favorable pressure pattern this summer like this one can’t get us back to pre 2005-2007 extents. https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/analyses/new-abnormal The new abnormal THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2024 Since 2007, the Arctic sea ice minimum has dropped below 5 million square kilometers (1.93 million square miles) every year, except in 2009, 2013, and 2014, when extent barely crossed the 5 million square kilometer mark. Such low extents would have been hard to imagine in the 1990s, when extent averaged 6.46 million square kilometers (2.49 million square miles). This persistent new normal, and the related losses of most of the old and thick ice, are prominent characteristics of the new, warmer Arctic—resiliently low in ice cover despite more than a decade of variations in seasonal climate patterns and oceanconditions.
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Despite the Euro having something in the Gulf late, ironically the crazy GFS has no Gulf TC on its 6Z for the 1st run since way back at 18Z of 9/14! It just has one moving just N of Cuba (not in Gulf) at 384.
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Starting the day out with minimums near 70°. So the warmer minimum departures this month have been a bit more impressive than the maxes. The cool down next week follows this theme. Clouds, easterly flow, and rain will keep the maximum departures cooler than the minimum departures.
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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
MJO812 replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
https://www.severe-weather.eu/long-range-2/new-polar-vortex-emerging-winter-2026-2027-disruption-forecast-stratospheric-warming-trend-united-states-canada-europe-fa/ -
Septorcher 2026 Discussion - Endless Summer
Damage In Tolland replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Other than rain this afternoon -
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top tier – mid summer level lightning/thunder.
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The dry ones as usual duh haha
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Hoping next weeks rain moves out by end of the week. Annual musical fest in OC is next weekend
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Ready 2 garden variety
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Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Yardstickgozinya replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Latest update from the NHC said that thunderstorms have become better organized and may continue to do so over the coming days. They must have decided to raise it back up to 40% chance of development over the next 7 days. It's to keep moving west over the next 24 hours, then possibly turn to the south. -
Didn't think we would reel the train in this far north tonight but it has been booming like a mf
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Septorcher 2026 Discussion - Endless Summer
Modfan2 replied to Damage In Tolland's topic in New England
Down to 62F, maybe a high of 80F….Nice weather until Sunday. -
Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Yardstickgozinya replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=CTP&issuedby=CTP&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off Highlight Changed Discussion -- 115 FXUS61 KCTP 170747 AFDCTP Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service State College PA 347 AM EDT Thu Sep 17 2026 .WHAT HAS CHANGED... * Level 1 excessive rain risk expanded to all of CPA for today * Cooler temperature moderation next week && .KEY MESSAGES... 1) Very humid with locally heavy rainfall possible this afternoon && .DISCUSSION... KEY MESSAGE 1: Very humid with locally heavy rainfall possible this afternoon Highly anomalous moisture for this time of year (NAEFS mean pwat values near climatological maximum percentiles) pooling around the periphery of subtropical high over the southern Plains and lower MS Valley will interact with a surface cold front moving slowly south/southeastward from the lower Great Lakes to produce periods of showers and a few locally heavy thunderstorms across Pennsylvania later today. 17/00Z HREF indicates the potential for spot rain amounts of 2-3 inches. It`s very likely that most of central PA picks up some rainfall by tonight. However, we do not anticipate an all-day rain/washout. Cloud trends remain a tough call with early morning convection over north central PA, but fcst instability this afternoon across south central PA will be more than supportive for thunderstorm development. SPC continues to maintain a general (non-severe) convective outlook for today which is likely due to the lack of deep layer shear (displaced farther to the north) and poor mid level lapse rates (very moist, tall/skinny soundings with warm cloud depths greater than 10kft). Another taste of Fall is on the way for the end of the week with noticeably cooler and much drier/less humid air poised to return behind the front (Td crashing into the 40s/50s). Expect a crisp and cool overnight Friday into Saturday morning with some upper 30s possible across the northern tier. Dry/fair wx conditions are forecast to start the weekend and last through the day on Saturday followed by periods of potentially heavy rainfall Saturday night through early next week. Both NAEFS and ECMWF SATs show at least 90th percentile PWs returning the the region which is supportive for at least a marginal excessive rain signal. NBM temps have also cooled/moderated quite a bit Mon-Wed with most locations struggling to exceed 70F for daytime highs. -
Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
pawatch replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
67 degrees this morning . Some rain showers on the way. Need to keep that grass growing -
Arctic Sea Ice Extent, Area, and Volume
Stormchaserchuck1 replied to ORH_wxman's topic in Climate Change
498dm low in the Arctic circle for the next 4 days. -
498dm in the Arctic circle for the next 4 days. Continuing the warm season theme from 2024 and 2025.
