Nittany88 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 This has to be an error...no way there was over 1" of QPF in the last 24 hours on the mountain...especially at those temperatures. However there is the usual 50% reduction from actual snowfall...with 3". I'm not even sure if you could achieve those numbers even if we had a full blown sleet storm up there. On the plus side, the snow depth is now 50". DAILY HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL DATANATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT521 PM EST SAT JAN 5 2013STATION PRECIP TEMPERATURE PRESENT SNOW 24 HRS MAX MIN CUR WEATHER NEW TOTAL SWE...VERMONT...MOUNT MANSFIELD 1.07 17 9 9 3.0 50 Lol 3:1 ratios, yeah that's typical of sleet. 17 degree snow, not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 powder freak what is your total in town YTD, and also at the base 1500' ytd. if you have the numbers. also sugarbush leading the way wrt snowfall totals seems suspect. they must be measuring anti conservatively this year. i mean i have seen a cple events where they look to have jpotted but not enuf to out do you or jay Ive skied most of the days sugarbush has reported snow and believe the reported amounts are accurate. There were 2 days i thought they were off. One high and one low. The low day they reported 12" and i thought there was at least 18" up top. Also, judging by what is falling where i am at 1300', the reports make sense. If sb has reported more than stowe, it is mostly due to the storm on 12/27. Either way, there is a great snowpack right now. Fantastic day today. What a joy. I cant believe ive had 7 powder days already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I love the btv wrf model output. Looks like killington could pull a 7 same w sb and right up the spine. Ahhhh jealous. One year I'm gonna rent a apt in like eden/lowell or belvedre @ 1500 or so or perhaps further down the spine if I cld find a spot aoa 2kish. I want to be measuring pow w every passing sw while sne "flatlanders" pray for weenie flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 I love the btv wrf model output. Looks like killington could pull a 7 same w sb and right up the spine. Ahhhh jealous. One year I'm gonna rent a apt in like eden/lowell or belvedre @ 1500 or so or perhaps further down the spine if I cld find a spot aoa 2kish. I want to be measuring pow w every passing sw while sne "flatlanders" pray for weenie flakes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm at roughly 44" at my house... I think I'm running like 3-4" higher than the Village CoCoRAHS, but he hasn't reported in the past couple days. J.Spin's got me by 14" though but that's about par for the course. He gets better snows in the west slope events, while also getting snow in the east side events, lol. Maybe a couple inches also builds up from dedicated 6-12 hour measurements? But he's definitely had more snow this season. Our snowpack seems pretty similar though, as I was at 12.5" this morning after about 1.8" yesterday/last night. Now back to 12.0" this evening as that settled out. Yeah, 12.0” here as well as of today’s observations. More snow on the way... actually looks like a decent little event for the Saint Lawrence Valley, Montreal/southern Quebec area, and far northern Champlain Valley. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=83854'>BTVwrf.jpg It certainly looks like some snow is heading this direction: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Ive skied most of the days sugarbush has reported snow and believe the reported amounts are accurate. There were 2 days i thought they were off. One high and one low. The low day they reported 12" and i thought there was at least 18" up top. Also, judging by what is falling where i am at 1300', the reports make sense. If sb has reported more than stowe, it is mostly due to the storm on 12/27. Either way, there is a great snowpack right now. Fantastic day today. What a joy. I cant believe ive had 7 powder days already. Yeah I think its all made sense to me. There was that sweet spot for a week during the holidays in the Killington/SB region. And SB was far enough north to get in on the snow earlier in the season that the northern spots had.The 12/27 storm was a lot bigger just south of here with plenty of 16-22 inch amounts in the villages (which is going to translate higher at the summits)... vs the 12" here in Stowe village with 17" at the summit. The town of Waitsfield had more snow in that event than my 3,000ft stake, so no surprise SB at same elevation and higher would be much more. The one thing I can't get is if MRG is just under-reporting on purpose or if they really do get that much less snow than SB. There were a bunch of days I thought they would've gotten more snow. And its obviously going to be variable based on wind transport and where one is skiing...including aspect. Some days I'm skiing and think the stakes must be low, then other days like yesterday, I thought the stakes (especially summit) might have been high. Often it has to do with the fact that most ski trails are exposed to wind and sheltered spots in the woods aren't. Measuring 5, 6, 7 inches in a very sheltered environment where snow is able to fall straight down and stack up high (if you look at my 3,000ft area its dead calm in there 99% of the time), but out on the ski trails that same fluffy 6-7" in the sheltered clearing can be a windpacked, beaten down 2-3". Its similar to what J.Spin always notices with his house not seeing much if any wind, and the big flakes we usually get here are able to just stack up high, usually giving a very favorable snow to water ratio. I think that's the biggest difference sometimes. Wind packed snow on the trails can sometimes lead to skiers thinking there is less...while other skiers that find the drifted snow think there is more. As long you are consistent with where you are measuring, thats really the point. I've even had some other snow reporter at another local mountain tell me that its more of an art and you should give what people will percieve they are skiing through. I'm not a fan of that. I'd rather a fixed location snow board and stake just make the decision for me, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Almost an inch of new dust now at 7am base of Mansfield. Very high ratio fluff. Snowing surprisingly steadily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Well, more light snow this morning. Picked up 0.5" so far. And, of note, I've had measureable ever day so far this year. I love the btv wrf model output. Looks like killington could pull a 7 same w sb and right up the spine. Ahhhh jealous. One year I'm gonna rent a apt in like eden/lowell or belvedre @ 1500 or so or perhaps further down the spine if I cld find a spot aoa 2kish. I want to be measuring pow w every passing sw while sne "flatlanders" pray for weenie flakes Silly flatlanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Gray, 10F, and tiny snowgrains - more likely well-sublimated former flakes - not quite covering the older snow. Might get half to an inch later today. Still 12" at the stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Event totals: 1.9” Snow/0.05” L.E. We had a final 0.1” yesterday to finish off that event, and I found a good stack of snow on the snowboard this morning with light snow continuing under mostly cloudy skies. Details from the 7:00 A.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 1.9 inches New Liquid: 0.05 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 38.0 Snow Density: 2.6% H2O Temperature: 17.4 F Sky: Mostly Cloudy/Light Snow (2-12 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 13.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Coming down at a good clip atm. Flake size has greatly increased in the past few minutes. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Burl and Ives snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Burl and Ives snow. I see what you did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Shaping up to being a great day for an afternoon snowshoe, we have received 3/4" so far with -SN continuing and every once a while a steadier burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Shaping up to being a great day for an afternoon snowshoe, we have received 3/4" so far with -SN continuing and every once a while a steadier burst. Things have lightened up here for now, but still snowing lightly. Sounds good on the snowshoe. We're heading out for a ski tour this afternoon ourselves. Not sure where yet--maybe Wright's Mountain in Bradford or Galusha Hill in Topsham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 About 3/4 of an inch here. Have been snowmobiling more so far this year than all of last. Looks like a little bit of a warm up this week but not devastating. Maybe more snow/mixed precip. Would actually be good for snowpack durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 .9 so far. Add nickle to dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Sounds good on the snowshoe. We're heading out for a ski tour this afternoon ourselves. Not sure where yet--maybe Wright's Mountain in Bradford or Galusha Hill in Topsham. Very nice enjoy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We had somewhere between 1-1.5" from that first burst... then it sort of flurried for a couple hours, now its starting to flurry a little harder again, haha. Hopefully we can add another 2-4" by tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just had a little burst of snow move through, looks like it put me up to an inch from last night and today. I really love these types of days, clouds, a little sun, nice temps and some on and off snow. One thing that this board has done to me is make me fearful for future events. At times, I feel like I worry too much about what will happen next week instead of just enjoying what we have right now. Oh well, lets hope any warm up doesn't kill all of our snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 How the greens doin today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Some stats from the 3,000ft snow board... Prior to today's snow, we had 8" in the previous 72 hours (settled to 7.5"), so I cleared to reset for this event. I had been having a co-worker check it the past two days, but told him not to clear it so I could verify. This was the stack after settling. 18 of the last 22 days with 1" or greater on this snow board (81" since December 15th for an average of just under 4"/day) at 3,000ft. And that's still over 1,000ft below the summit ridge. 51" since December 15th at 1,500ft. The woods along the Green Mountain Spine are just caked with snow right now. Bummer we will warm up as that'll kick the snow out of the trees and take away that "plastered white" look. I mean even under thick evergreens, even the lowest branches are just caked with snow. All the smaller trees that are like 4-8 feet tall are really starting to succumb to the snowfall. It truly is a snow weenie's dream world up there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 How the greens doin today? 1-2" today... about as expected. We'll see what happens tonight. The forecast was for 1-2" today and 1-3" tonight... I'm thinking that'll be dead on. I've had 1.7" so far from this event. Here's a shot from earlier today during that heavier burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Local BTV area is quite warm right now... I was surprised to see it was 34F and just cloudy at BTV, while here its 27F and a steady light snow. MPV is 28F with -SN (they were just under a mile vis) while MVL is 27F with -SN (1.75sm visibility). The usual west slopes, Spine, and east is getting the snow while BTV must be seeing some compressional drying and warming off the Adirondacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Someone in the vicinity of Jerhico/Underhill region (west slopes of Chittenden County upstream of Mansfield/Bolton) looks like they may be in for a surprise tonight. This has the look of 1"/hr snow developing in those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 2.25" so far from this event. Snowing lightly but high ratio stuff so its slowly adding up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Event totals: 0.8” Snow/0.02” L.E. AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT 109 PM EST SUN JAN 6 2013 .SYNOPSIS... A WEAK UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA THIS MORNING AND BRING LIGHT SNOW. A SECOND AND SLIGHTLY STRONGER UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE INTO THE NORTH COUNTRY LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...THUS BRINGING MORE LIGHT SNOWS. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE 1 TO 4 INCH RANGE. Since the NWS is splitting apart the two events from today per the discussion text above, I’ll be doing the same in my records. We had another 0.2” this morning to finish off the first event, and 0.8” so far in the second event with continued light snow. We were skiing at Stowe this afternoon and there was light snow much of the time, but it was really picking up when we left. The snow intensity dropped a bit down in the town of Stowe, and really fell off in Waterbury Center/Colbyville/Waterbury, and then picked up again back toward the house. Nice snowfall at the resort though, I’d call it moderate when we left: Details from the 7:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.8 inches New Liquid: 0.02 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 40.0 Snow Density: 2.5% H2O Temperature: 27.3 F Sky: Light Snow (2-8 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 13.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j24vt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 3.5" so far today brings my season total to an even 50". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 24 hour snowfall: 750ft at home... 3.0" Depth: 14.0" 1,550ft at Mansfield/Barnes Camp... 4.0" Depth: 22" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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